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Tesla to Bud Light: hold my beer!

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #31

    Cyber truck resale values in the toilet.

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    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      #32

      We are seriously at a point where conservatives are buying EVs and promoting their stock while liberals are dumping them, setting them on fire, and torching charging stations. Who had this on their Bingo Cards 5 years ago?

      The Brad

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        #33

        It’s easier to imagine left of center folks abandoning Tesla than it is to imagine major take up on the right. The stock sure. But how many conservatives really want an electric car?

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
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          Making the rounds on conservative media is the fact that Waltz's Minnesota state pension fund has 10 figures in TSLA, as Walz does a happy dance about the stock decline.

          Education is extremely important.

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            #35

            Drove by a Tesla dealership and saw a protest in front of it. Maybe around 100 to 200 people, I would guess. Folks brought signs and waved at traffic, totally peaceful from what I saw. 🤷

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              This is wild - I was always a bit surprised that something like electric cars were so politicized and toxic on the right.

              Rationality really does seem very subordinate to feelings for humans. (See: righteous mind by Haidt)

              I’m not putting myself above that. Very much recognize it in myself too lately.

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                Righteousness is fun and simple, and in groups it is not only socially acceptable, it is socially advantageous (if the group shares the same righteousness). It's not going anywhere in large scale human dynamics.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  #38

                  Again, just imagine if there were systematic arsons and other destruction across America, of politically targeted leftist businesses, by Magats. To the extent that on Fox news, it was being publicized, and cheered on, and laughed at. The left would be going completely insane. The liberal females of Bluesky would melt that website down.

                  Link to video

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    #39

                    The really stupid part of this? Elon owns about what? 12%? 65%-70% is owned by various investment funds. Vanguard, Blackrock, etc… These people are fucking over teachers, union workers, and general maintenance street far more than they are hurting Elon….

                    The Brad

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                    • X xenon

                      This is wild - I was always a bit surprised that something like electric cars were so politicized and toxic on the right.

                      Rationality really does seem very subordinate to feelings for humans. (See: righteous mind by Haidt)

                      I’m not putting myself above that. Very much recognize it in myself too lately.

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                      Jolly
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                      @xenon said in Tesla to Bud Light: hold my beer!:

                      This is wild - I was always a bit surprised that something like electric cars were so politicized and toxic on the right.

                      EV's, per se, are not toxic on the right. Never have been.

                      What is toxic on the right, is the state forcing EV's on the public. One ought to be able to drive what you want to drive. And what can work in Europe would be silly as hell in West Texas.

                      Somebody like Jon, who lives on the East Coast where everything is more compact and range isn't as critical, could probably do ok with a Tesla. It would suck for me...How do you charge a Tesla when a hurricane knocks out the electricity for four days?

                      Freedom of choice is good!

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        The really stupid part of this? Elon owns about what? 12%? 65%-70% is owned by various investment funds. Vanguard, Blackrock, etc… These people are fucking over teachers, union workers, and general maintenance street far more than they are hurting Elon….

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                        @LuFins-Dad said in Tesla to Bud Light: hold my beer!:

                        The really stupid part of this? Elon owns about what? 12%? 65%-70% is owned by various investment funds. Vanguard, Blackrock, etc… These people are fucking over teachers, union workers, and general maintenance street far more than they are hurting Elon….

                        That’s just wrong. Tesla is the vast majority of his wealth. It’s a small bit of any investment fund.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          #42

                          Vanguard has three pretty big ones with between 2-3% Tesla stock.

                          Or at least they used to...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            Stocks are easier to manipulate with social contagions of fear and greed, than the fundamentals of a company are. But Tesla's fundamentals could easily be affected too, if the net effect of Elon's political participation is negative enough. If enough shame or fear is heaped on buyers of Tesla cars. I can imagine not wanting to deal with the potential for random people thinking you're signaling something political, and potentially toxic to them, just by the car you drive. The differences between cars is not so great that that wouldn't be an easy tie breaker. Some others will want to support the company, of course, but I don't know that they will be enough.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              @LuFins-Dad said in Tesla to Bud Light: hold my beer!:

                              The really stupid part of this? Elon owns about what? 12%? 65%-70% is owned by various investment funds. Vanguard, Blackrock, etc… These people are fucking over teachers, union workers, and general maintenance street far more than they are hurting Elon….

                              That’s just wrong. Tesla is the vast majority of his wealth. It’s a small bit of any investment fund.

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                              @jon-nyc said in Tesla to Bud Light: hold my beer!:

                              @LuFins-Dad said in Tesla to Bud Light: hold my beer!:

                              The really stupid part of this? Elon owns about what? 12%? 65%-70% is owned by various investment funds. Vanguard, Blackrock, etc… These people are fucking over teachers, union workers, and general maintenance street far more than they are hurting Elon….

                              That’s just wrong. Tesla is the vast majority of his wealth. It’s a small bit of any investment fund.

                              His holdings in SpaceX are worth ~ $150B, and he has another ~ $50B from X and his other holdings. Wipe out Tesla entirely and he’s still worth over $200B and likely still wealthier than Bezos and Zuck. Pray tell, what difference does this drop make in his day to day living? The little $ that I tossed on Tesla a little while back probably had a bigger effect on my day to day life and a .3% drop in a fund’s performance will likely have a bigger impact on a Median earner’s retirement lifestyle than Musk’s lifestyle after losing $150B in Tesla…

                              Beyond that, you have 126K Tesla employees that will feel this a helluva lot more than Musk will.

                              The Brad

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                                jon-nyc
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                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  Tesla up $27 so far today, about 11%

                                  A good day

                                  If I am calculating this correctly, that is worth about $19B to Mr. Musk's stock value

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                                    Insiders sell their own company's stock all the time. I know the article says that the volume was relatively high, but I'm not sure how true that is.

                                    By the way, put your entire portfolio into TSLA this Friday. You'll thank me on Monday.

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                                    @Horace said in Tesla to Bud Light: hold my beer!:

                                    By the way, put your entire portfolio into TSLA this Friday. You'll thank me on Monday.

                                    Nailed it.

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                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        Glad you support vandalism...

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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