Beyond the antivaxx stuff MAHA is either banal or fake

[Copper]

Let's just do this one final study and then never talk about it again.

[Doctor Phibes]

If the findings are the same as all of the other studies, is it really going to change anybody's mind?

[Jolly]

Depends on who's lying to whom.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Jolly said in Beyond the antivaxx stuff MAHA is either banal or fake:

Depends on who's lying to whom.

A simple 'no' would probably have been easier.

[Jolly]

Trust, once broken, is hard to regain.

It's why cheating kills marriages.

[Axtremus]

@Jolly said in Beyond the antivaxx stuff MAHA is either banal or fake:

Trust, once broken, is hard to regain.

What if it's faith rather than trust that is operating here?

[Doctor Phibes]

@Jolly said in Beyond the antivaxx stuff MAHA is either banal or fake:

Trust, once broken, is hard to regain.

It's why cheating kills marriages.

The bogus link between autism and MMR vaccines goes back decades. The lying and fraud started in the 90's, and it wasn't perpetrated by those who support vaccination.

[Jolly]

And the lying about the COVID vaccine was pretty recent.

As the old folks said, if they'll lie about one thing, they'll lie about something else....

[LuFins Dad]

4 years ago, I was told the science behind puberty blockers was settled. They were safe, reversible, and led to better health outcomes for kids with gender dysphoria. The vast studies supported allowing kids to socially transition and progress. If you don’t, then your daughter is likely going to suicide. It was science. Incontrovertible.

[Copper]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Beyond the antivaxx stuff MAHA is either banal or fake:

The lying and fraud started in the 90's,

Yes, the 1790s. There were those who thought bloodletting was wrong.

All of our best scientists agreed that General George Washington was a candidate for bloodletting.

How did bloodletting contribute to Washington's death?

The massive blood loss, dehydration, electrolyte imbalance, and viscous blood flow likely contributed to Washington's condition.

The bloodletting resulted in severely low blood pressure and shock.

Some years later there were studies that showed the bloodletters might have been a little too enthusiastic.

Science can change. Don't be afraid to question.

[Doctor Phibes]

What you're missing, presumably intentionally, is that the link was first conceived by a fraudulent study that faked it's data.

Investigation is fine and dandy, but the only link that's ever been made was due to a bogus paper.