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    Horace
    wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 00:40 last edited by
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    Ben Shapiro shares Warren Buffett's wisdom:

    Link to video

    Education is extremely important.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 00:50 last edited by
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      What the hell does he know about markets?

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        Horace
        wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 00:53 last edited by
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        It's just interesting that Shapiro is sharing it. I think most reasonable Trump supporters were hoping the tariff stuff was on the less serious side of his campaign rhetoric. Ben said as much in his debate with Sam Harris.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • H Horace
          7 Mar 2025, 00:53

          It's just interesting that Shapiro is sharing it. I think most reasonable Trump supporters were hoping the tariff stuff was on the less serious side of his campaign rhetoric. Ben said as much in his debate with Sam Harris.

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          Renauda
          wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 01:03 last edited by Renauda 3 Jul 2025, 01:05
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          @Horace

          . I think most reasonable Trump supporters were hoping the tariff stuff was on the less serious side of his campaign rhetoric.

          I sense some buyer’s remorse in that statement.

          Elbows up!

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          • R Renauda
            7 Mar 2025, 01:03

            @Horace

            . I think most reasonable Trump supporters were hoping the tariff stuff was on the less serious side of his campaign rhetoric.

            I sense some buyer’s remorse in that statement.

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            Horace
            wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 01:05 last edited by
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            @Renauda The tariff stuff is in the con column, and by far the most important thing in that column. Lots of stuff in the pro column, which I won't litigate in this thread.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • H Horace
              7 Mar 2025, 01:05

              @Renauda The tariff stuff is in the con column, and by far the most important thing in that column. Lots of stuff in the pro column, which I won't litigate in this thread.

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              Renauda
              wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 01:14 last edited by Renauda 3 Jul 2025, 02:24
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              @Horace

              I’m sure of that as well and upon much of it I
              have no comment because it is internal to
              the US. I too agree though that doing away with the current DOE is a good thing for the US. Am sure there are others as well.

              But I get it and respect that you are much more at home with Rand Paul than Trump and his ilk. There s a fair amount of Edmund Burke and Thomas Paine in my thinking as well, albeit tempered to meet the modern era.

              But on foreign policy and trade, the SOB makes it my business to comment, sneer and dunk as required and deserved. Capice?

              Elbows up!

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                xenon
                wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 01:17 last edited by xenon 3 Jul 2025, 01:17
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                I know it’s becoming a new political axiom that we have no morals anymore, only interests.

                But does anyone still hold on to quaint notions that character matters?

                Even if it’s not a sincere internal character, but at least trying to live up to what we as a nation think a laudable leader looks like?

                I think we’ll lose something every important in the long run if we let that go. But maybe I’m too much a goody two-shoes on this.

                I just find Trump’s amorality… disturbing.

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                • A Axtremus
                  7 Mar 2025, 00:30

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

                  Nobody’s talking about gas.. I just filled up at $2.80 per gallon.

                  And that's worth how many Grade A "Large" eggs?

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 01:23 last edited by
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                  @Axtremus said in Trumpenomics:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

                  Nobody’s talking about gas.. I just filled up at $2.80 per gallon.

                  And that's worth how many Grade A "Large" eggs?

                  In my neck of the woods? About nine.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 15:54 last edited by
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                    Think of the money we’ll save.

                    For the past five weeks, employees at National Institutes of Health technology transfer offices have been barred from filing new patent applications and been restricted from licensing existing ones, STAT reports. It’s a result of clampdowns on external communications and new contracts at the agency that are blocking it from sharing research materials with collaborators and taking crucial steps to ensure the discoveries its own scientists are making can later be used in the development of drugs and vaccines. “Being such a huge place of research, there was so much going on and a lot was already falling through the cracks,” one NIH patent specialist who was recently laid off said.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      7 Mar 2025, 15:54

                      Think of the money we’ll save.

                      For the past five weeks, employees at National Institutes of Health technology transfer offices have been barred from filing new patent applications and been restricted from licensing existing ones, STAT reports. It’s a result of clampdowns on external communications and new contracts at the agency that are blocking it from sharing research materials with collaborators and taking crucial steps to ensure the discoveries its own scientists are making can later be used in the development of drugs and vaccines. “Being such a huge place of research, there was so much going on and a lot was already falling through the cracks,” one NIH patent specialist who was recently laid off said.

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 16:00 last edited by
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                      @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                      Think of the money we’ll save.

                      I'm meeting a couple of guys from the DoL next week. If I get the chance I'll ask how things are going.

                      I was only joking

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 17:05 last edited by
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                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          7 Mar 2025, 17:05

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 17:11 last edited by
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                          @jon-nyc

                          Nor should he be subsidizing Trader Joe’s by shopping there.

                          😆

                          Elbows up!

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                            xenon
                            wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 17:21 last edited by
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                            With all these loyalists around him, the idiocy is on full display now.

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                              Horace
                              wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 17:46 last edited by
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                              I think it's a pretty big deal to take the free market hostage, with a tariff gun to its head. If he doesn't realize what a big deal that is, because he thinks tariffs are actually good for America, then that would be a problem. But obviously, with all the delays and other exits from the threats of tariffs, he doesn't actually think they're a good thing for America. If they were, he'd just implement them regardless.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                xenon
                                wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 17:51 last edited by xenon 3 Jul 2025, 17:52
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                                I can’t profess to know what’s in his head. But it seems like he’s getting hit in the face with reality when the market tanks. He might be confused as to why that’s happening.

                                So far he’s blaming the globalists.

                                Either it’s 4D chess, or he’s an idiot. Not much middle ground.

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                                • H Horace
                                  6 Mar 2025, 18:39

                                  @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                                  Good point from Alex Tabarrok, GMU colleague of Hanson, Caplan, and Cowen.

                                  That's what I just wrote, but I fleshed it out a bit. Did you post that for the people who have me blocked?

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                                  taiwan_girl
                                  wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 18:12 last edited by
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                                  @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

                                  the people who have me blocked?

                                  Noone would ever block you!! 😄

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                                  • X xenon
                                    7 Mar 2025, 01:17

                                    I know it’s becoming a new political axiom that we have no morals anymore, only interests.

                                    But does anyone still hold on to quaint notions that character matters?

                                    Even if it’s not a sincere internal character, but at least trying to live up to what we as a nation think a laudable leader looks like?

                                    I think we’ll lose something every important in the long run if we let that go. But maybe I’m too much a goody two-shoes on this.

                                    I just find Trump’s amorality… disturbing.

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                                    taiwan_girl
                                    wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 18:15 last edited by
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                                    @xenon said in Trumpenomics:

                                    But does anyone still hold on to quaint notions that character matters?

                                    Even if it’s not a sincere internal character, but at least trying to live up to what we as a nation think a laudable leader looks like?

                                    I think we’ll lose something every important in the long run if we let that go. But maybe I’m too much a goody two-shoes on this.

                                    I just find Trump’s amorality… disturbing.

                                    Agree 101%

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                                      7 Mar 2025, 18:12

                                      @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

                                      the people who have me blocked?

                                      Noone would ever block you!! 😄

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 18:25 last edited by Renauda 3 Jul 2025, 18:30
                                      #92

                                      @taiwan_girl said in Trumpenomics:

                                      @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

                                      the people who have me blocked?

                                      Noone would ever block you!! 😄

                                      I second that and if I found out someone did, it would be stark bolts for that person.

                                      @xenon

                                      So far he’s blaming the globalists

                                      Indeed, from his Oval Office window Trumpigula even sees “The Barge” docked along the Potomac.

                                      They’re coming to get him!

                                      Elbows up!

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 8 Mar 2025, 03:10 last edited by
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                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                          taiwan_girl
                                          wrote on 9 Mar 2025, 02:48 last edited by
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                                          https://www.forbes.com/sites/mayrarodriguezvalladares/2025/03/04/economic-and-market-data-signal-a-recession-is-coming/

                                          Perhaps the most significant data point signaling a possible recession is the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta’s widely tracked GDPNow model, which forecasts U.S. economic output will contract by an annualized rate of -2.4% in 2025’s first quarter based on a series of economic data points.
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                                          That would be the worst economic growth since the second quarter of 2020, at the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, and set the stage for the widely accepted technical definition of a recession, two consecutive quarters of negative gross domestic product growth.
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                                          The National Bureau of Economic Research more broadly defines it as a “significant decline in economic activity that is spread across the economy and lasts more than a few months.”
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                                          Several other concerning signals have flashed regarding the health of the American economy, as consumer sentiment tumbled to a 15-month low, layoff announcements shot up to a 4.5-year high and the stock market tanked, with the benchmark S&P 500 index falling 6% from its all-time high set Feb. 19 as the implementation of tariffs rocked Wall Street.
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                                          Models tracking the probability of a U.S. recession have simultaneously shifted to indicate a higher probability of an economic pullback.
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                                          Goldman Sachs economists upped their odds of a recession over the next 12 months from 15% to 20% on Friday, naming Trump’s economic policies as the “key risk,” while Yardeni Research raised their recession odds Wednesday from 20% to 35%, citing “Trump 2.0’s head-spinning barrage of executives orders, firings, and tariffs.”

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