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  • J jon-nyc
    6 Mar 2025, 17:20

    Heritage Foundation (Project 2025 authors) are now retconning previous papers about tariffs.

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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 17:51 last edited by
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    @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

    Heritage Foundation (Project 2025 authors) are now retconning previous papers about tariffs.

    But there are still some articles up. So maybe only that one guy. 🤷

    https://www.heritage.org/trade/report/do-no-harm-tariffs-and-quotas-hurt-the-homeland

    Tariffs are taxes on Americans, and quotas cut businesses off from valuable goods that provide Americans with more choice.

    Imports are integral to the competitiveness of domestic producers—and increasing their prices or limiting imports hurts Americans.

    Both tariffs and quotas decrease freedom, disrupt supply chains, and artificially change prices.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 18:09 last edited by jon-nyc 4 days ago
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      Reminded again of the Napoleon quote. I’m not surprised every man has his price. I’m surprised how low it is.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 18:24 last edited by
        #52

        Bessent: Low prices are overrated.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          Horace
          wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 18:30 last edited by
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          If the only cheap things in America are the words used by the Trump administration when they tell people that prices don't matter, they are not long for power. Obviously. They must know that.

          Education is extremely important.

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            Horace
            wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 18:32 last edited by
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            A fuller context of the quote might have to do with standard of living and income relative to prices, which could make some sense, but the runway needed for that sort of momentum in the face of immediately higher prices, is not there.

            Education is extremely important.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 18:35 last edited by
              #55

              Good point from Alex Tabarrok, GMU colleague of Hanson, Caplan, and Cowen.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • J jon-nyc
                6 Mar 2025, 18:35

                Good point from Alex Tabarrok, GMU colleague of Hanson, Caplan, and Cowen.

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                Horace
                wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 18:39 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                Good point from Alex Tabarrok, GMU colleague of Hanson, Caplan, and Cowen.

                That's what I just wrote, but I fleshed it out a bit. Did you post that for the people who have me blocked?

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 18:47 last edited by
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                  The stock market continues to hemorrhage bigly.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    xenon
                    wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 18:55 last edited by
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                    I’ve heard people say it’s all about confidence and optimism.

                    Perhaps investors think Trump doesn’t have the right temperament this time around.

                    Or maybe it’ll be fine tomorrow… who knows.

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                      Copper
                      wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 19:11 last edited by Copper 4 days ago
                      #59

                      Every tariff discussion should be grounded in two key numbers: 50 and 33

                      Every tariff discussion should be grounded in one key question.

                      Does this tariff help in the coming war against China?

                      Lose that war, and the rest of this doesn't matter.

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                      • C Copper
                        6 Mar 2025, 19:11

                        Every tariff discussion should be grounded in two key numbers: 50 and 33

                        Every tariff discussion should be grounded in one key question.

                        Does this tariff help in the coming war against China?

                        Lose that war, and the rest of this doesn't matter.

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 19:21 last edited by Renauda 4 days ago
                        #60

                        @Copper said in Trumpenomics:

                        Every tariff discussion should be grounded in two key numbers: 50 and 33

                        Every tariff discussion should be grounded in one key question.

                        Does this tariff help in the coming war against China?

                        Lose that war, and the rest of this doesn't matter.

                        Then if that is the parallel world you live in, MAGAt USA should immediately stop shitting on its friends and allies with punitive sanctions disguised as tariffs, and extortionist threats. Would help too to your perfidious demagogue president would stop licking Putin’s ass.

                        My next elbow will be a hell of lot harder if you come back at me with your usual disingeuous and passive aggressive snark

                        Elbows up!

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                        • R Renauda
                          6 Mar 2025, 19:21

                          @Copper said in Trumpenomics:

                          Every tariff discussion should be grounded in two key numbers: 50 and 33

                          Every tariff discussion should be grounded in one key question.

                          Does this tariff help in the coming war against China?

                          Lose that war, and the rest of this doesn't matter.

                          Then if that is the parallel world you live in, MAGAt USA should immediately stop shitting on its friends and allies with punitive sanctions disguised as tariffs, and extortionist threats. Would help too to your perfidious demagogue president would stop licking Putin’s ass.

                          My next elbow will be a hell of lot harder if you come back at me with your usual disingeuous and passive aggressive snark

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 19:31 last edited by
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                          @Renauda said in Trumpenomics:

                          Would help too to your perfidious demagogue president would stop licking Putin’s ass.

                          Let's not rush to judgement. He may just be licking the base of his own pinky. You can't really tell.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                          • R Renauda
                            6 Mar 2025, 19:21

                            @Copper said in Trumpenomics:

                            Every tariff discussion should be grounded in two key numbers: 50 and 33

                            Every tariff discussion should be grounded in one key question.

                            Does this tariff help in the coming war against China?

                            Lose that war, and the rest of this doesn't matter.

                            Then if that is the parallel world you live in, MAGAt USA should immediately stop shitting on its friends and allies with punitive sanctions disguised as tariffs, and extortionist threats. Would help too to your perfidious demagogue president would stop licking Putin’s ass.

                            My next elbow will be a hell of lot harder if you come back at me with your usual disingeuous and passive aggressive snark

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 19:37 last edited by
                            #62

                            @Renauda said in Trumpenomics:

                            @Copper said in Trumpenomics:

                            Every tariff discussion should be grounded in two key numbers: 50 and 33

                            Every tariff discussion should be grounded in one key question.

                            Does this tariff help in the coming war against China?

                            Lose that war, and the rest of this doesn't matter.

                            Then if that is the parallel world you live in, MAGAt USA should immediately stop shitting on its friends and allies with punitive sanctions disguised as tariffs, and extortionist threats. Would help too to your perfidious demagogue president would stop licking Putin’s ass.

                            My next elbow will be a hell of lot harder if you come back at me with your usual disingeuous and passive aggressive snark

                            You don't seem to be a friend.

                            Check your spelling.

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                            • H Horace
                              6 Mar 2025, 18:47

                              The stock market continues to hemorrhage bigly.

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 19:37 last edited by
                              #63

                              @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

                              The stock market continues to hemorrhage bigly.

                              Maybe it's all a cunning plan to make TruthSocial look more appealing than nVidia.

                              I was only joking

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                              • C Copper
                                6 Mar 2025, 19:37

                                @Renauda said in Trumpenomics:

                                @Copper said in Trumpenomics:

                                Every tariff discussion should be grounded in two key numbers: 50 and 33

                                Every tariff discussion should be grounded in one key question.

                                Does this tariff help in the coming war against China?

                                Lose that war, and the rest of this doesn't matter.

                                Then if that is the parallel world you live in, MAGAt USA should immediately stop shitting on its friends and allies with punitive sanctions disguised as tariffs, and extortionist threats. Would help too to your perfidious demagogue president would stop licking Putin’s ass.

                                My next elbow will be a hell of lot harder if you come back at me with your usual disingeuous and passive aggressive snark

                                You don't seem to be a friend.

                                Check your spelling.

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 19:43 last edited by Renauda 4 days ago
                                #64

                                @Copper said in Trumpenomics:

                                @Renauda said in Trumpenomics:

                                @Copper said in Trumpenomics:

                                Every tariff discussion should be grounded in two key numbers: 50 and 33

                                Every tariff discussion should be grounded in one key question.

                                Does this tariff help in the coming war against China?

                                Lose that war, and the rest of this doesn't matter.

                                Then if that is the parallel world you live in, MAGAt USA should immediately stop shitting on its friends and allies with punitive sanctions disguised as tariffs, and extortionist threats. Would help too to your perfidious demagogue president would stop licking Putin’s ass.

                                My next elbow will be a hell of lot harder if you come back at me with your usual disingeuous and passive aggressive snark

                                You don't seem to be a friend.

                                You’re right, I am not your friend and, by the way, your disingenuous head is still up your arse.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 20:21 last edited by
                                  #65

                                  He's alienating a lot of Trump voters on this.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • X xenon
                                    6 Mar 2025, 18:55

                                    I’ve heard people say it’s all about confidence and optimism.

                                    Perhaps investors think Trump doesn’t have the right temperament this time around.

                                    Or maybe it’ll be fine tomorrow… who knows.

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 20:25 last edited by
                                    #66

                                    @xenon said in Trumpenomics:

                                    I’ve heard people say it’s all about confidence and optimism.

                                    Perhaps investors think Trump doesn’t have the right temperament this time around.

                                    Or maybe it’ll be fine tomorrow… who knows.

                                    I have confidence and optimism that Trump will pivot if it looks like the market will continue to plummet…

                                    The Brad

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 20:55 last edited by
                                      #67

                                      lol. Does everyone get the reference?

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • C Copper
                                        6 Mar 2025, 19:37

                                        @Renauda said in Trumpenomics:

                                        @Copper said in Trumpenomics:

                                        Every tariff discussion should be grounded in two key numbers: 50 and 33

                                        Every tariff discussion should be grounded in one key question.

                                        Does this tariff help in the coming war against China?

                                        Lose that war, and the rest of this doesn't matter.

                                        Then if that is the parallel world you live in, MAGAt USA should immediately stop shitting on its friends and allies with punitive sanctions disguised as tariffs, and extortionist threats. Would help too to your perfidious demagogue president would stop licking Putin’s ass.

                                        My next elbow will be a hell of lot harder if you come back at me with your usual disingeuous and passive aggressive snark

                                        You don't seem to be a friend.

                                        Check your spelling.

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 21:19 last edited by Renauda 3 days ago
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                                        @Copper

                                        Check your spelling.

                                        Sorry I missed that earlier.

                                        Okay then, you tell me how to spell “wanker” in American. Better than anyone else here, you are the one who ought to know.

                                        My spelling is fine thank you and every bit as good as your’s or anyone else’s here.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • X xenon
                                          6 Mar 2025, 18:55

                                          I’ve heard people say it’s all about confidence and optimism.

                                          Perhaps investors think Trump doesn’t have the right temperament this time around.

                                          Or maybe it’ll be fine tomorrow… who knows.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 22:51 last edited by
                                          #69

                                          @xenon said in Trumpenomics:

                                          I’ve heard people say it’s all about confidence and optimism.

                                          Perhaps investors think Trump doesn’t have the right temperament this time around.

                                          Or maybe it’ll be fine tomorrow… who knows.

                                          I think a lot of it is about perception. And stability.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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