Glad the free speech folks are in charge
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wrote on 14 Feb 2025, 21:40 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
Trump files a lawsuit over publishing an outlier poll result.
FIRE to mount her defense.
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wrote on 17 Feb 2025, 13:45 last edited by
20 minutes apart.
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wrote on 22 Feb 2025, 19:00 last edited by Horace
The AP is reporting that the AP is suing the press secretary.
I'm not sure this will come off as well as they think it will. But I'm sure the usual suspects will eat it up.
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The AP is reporting that the AP is suing the press secretary.
I'm not sure this will come off as well as they think it will. But I'm sure the usual suspects will eat it up.
wrote on 22 Feb 2025, 19:18 last edited by@Horace said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
The AP is reporting that the AP is suing the press secretary.
I'm not sure this will come off as well as they think it will. But I'm sure the usual suspects will eat it up.
The Whitehouse is not excluding them, except in small venues and they aren't excluding them at all from public events.
It's bad optics, but I don't think it is unconstitutional. We shall see.
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wrote on 22 Feb 2025, 20:06 last edited by
It's similar to Disney vs Florida, where Florida revoked a sweetheart business deal it had with Disney, and Disney called it a violation of their right to free speech. The Disney lawsuit got defeated in court, as I expect this to be.
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wrote on 22 Feb 2025, 20:08 last edited by
Newsmax and Fox News are among the outlets who have reportedly signed onto a letter pushing back on the Trump administration’s decision to restrict the Associated Press’s White House access, in a dispute over President Trump renaming the Gulf of Mexico as the Gulf of America.
“The First Amendment prohibits the government from asserting control over how news organizations make editorial decisions. Any attempt to punish journalists for those decisions is a serious breach of this Constitutional protection,” the letter reads,
https://thehill.com/homenews/5155957-newsmax-fox-news-support-ap-first-amendment/
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wrote on 22 Feb 2025, 20:53 last edited by
As Horace said, we shall see.
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wrote on 22 Feb 2025, 22:13 last edited by
I imagine Fox and Newsmax can think further ahead than the next couple of years, which is a concept that a number of people on both sides of the political divide seem to struggle with.
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wrote on 22 Feb 2025, 22:45 last edited by
This is just such a practically meaningless thing. I chuckle at the idea that an in-person presser with KJP is considered an important fundamental right of the press. Those abject nothing-burgers of question avoidance are a cornerstone of the press's ability to do its job.
I know this is for the principle of it, but the principle of it really does boil down to how to ration finite seats in a press conference.
If this happens to conservative news sources in a future administration, it'll only be red meat to their base, so I don't think I'm being hypocritical with my shrug here.
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wrote on 22 Feb 2025, 22:47 last edited by
It's also easy to imagine that this is more Trump flooding the zone. If this is a shiny object for the media to concentrate on, and they fall for the bait, that's their choice.
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It's also easy to imagine that this is more Trump flooding the zone. If this is a shiny object for the media to concentrate on, and they fall for the bait, that's their choice.
wrote on 23 Feb 2025, 03:19 last edited by@Horace said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
It's also easy to imagine that this is more Trump flooding the zone. If this is a shiny object for the media to concentrate on, and they fall for the bait, that's their choice.
I think that the only thing that President Trump is thinking of is that somebody or organization made him mad. In my mind, he is quite vindictive, regardless of weather or not if someone is actually doing something against him. He just has to think that is the case.
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@Horace said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
It's also easy to imagine that this is more Trump flooding the zone. If this is a shiny object for the media to concentrate on, and they fall for the bait, that's their choice.
I think that the only thing that President Trump is thinking of is that somebody or organization made him mad. In my mind, he is quite vindictive, regardless of weather or not if someone is actually doing something against him. He just has to think that is the case.
wrote on 23 Feb 2025, 14:43 last edited by@taiwan_girl He can always be framed that way, and I suspect he is happy to be underestimated. It's part of his power. Keep it up.
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@Horace said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
It's also easy to imagine that this is more Trump flooding the zone. If this is a shiny object for the media to concentrate on, and they fall for the bait, that's their choice.
I think that the only thing that President Trump is thinking of is that somebody or organization made him mad. In my mind, he is quite vindictive, regardless of weather or not if someone is actually doing something against him. He just has to think that is the case.
wrote on 23 Feb 2025, 14:46 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
@Horace said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
It's also easy to imagine that this is more Trump flooding the zone. If this is a shiny object for the media to concentrate on, and they fall for the bait, that's their choice.
I think that the only thing that President Trump is thinking of is that somebody or organization made him mad. In my mind, he is quite vindictive, regardless of weather or not if someone is actually doing something against him. He just has to think that is the case.
Some of the best effective politicians I've ever seen, could be vindictive assholes. Pelosi, anyone?
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The AP is reporting that the AP is suing the press secretary.
I'm not sure this will come off as well as they think it will. But I'm sure the usual suspects will eat it up.
wrote on 27 Feb 2025, 20:58 last edited by jon-nyc@Horace said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
The AP is reporting that the AP is suing the press secretary.
There’s been movement on this. The judge, a Trump appointee, refused APs request for a TRO but then outright told the administration that the law and precedent is not on their side in this matter, setting some early dates for a preliminary injunction hearing.
Then he gave them an out. Musing out loud, he said it would be different if they hadn’t outsourced press attendance decisions to the WH Correspondents Association.
So the administration announced the following day that they are revoking the WHCA’s century-old role in managing the rotating pool of reporters that has access to small spaces like AF1 and the Oval Office.
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wrote on 27 Feb 2025, 21:56 last edited by
Pays to have good lawyers.
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wrote on 27 Feb 2025, 22:19 last edited by
Or in this case a judge giving free legal advice.
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wrote on 27 Feb 2025, 22:58 last edited by
FWIW, the lawyers I hang out with (granted: in a liquored up state) think that this is a slam dunk for the AP. Even the SCOTUS will decide for them.
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wrote on 27 Feb 2025, 23:08 last edited by
That is incorrect. Please inform those lawyers that they are wrong, and physically unattractive.
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wrote on 27 Feb 2025, 23:08 last edited by
Trump’s attorney gave it up in his first public statement.
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FWIW, the lawyers I hang out with (granted: in a liquored up state) think that this is a slam dunk for the AP. Even the SCOTUS will decide for them.
wrote on 28 Feb 2025, 02:44 last edited by jon-nyc@Tom-K said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
FWIW, the lawyers I hang out with (granted: in a liquored up state) think that this is a slam dunk for the AP. Even the SCOTUS will decide for them.
The Trump appointed judge basically told Trumps team that. But then he offered them a potential out. Though it's unclear to me whenever making the change ex-post will help. We'll see.