Vance

[Horace]

I liked the speech. I am not convinced that America has a lot to lose if progressive European governments get offended. I am also aware that beneath those governments and their talking points, are populations of people who resonate with Vance's speech. Which I assume was an important part of the calculation. Populist outreach.

[Jolly]

@jon-nyc said in Vance:

Undermined by his administration’s actions. The German foreign minister quipped about their hypocrisy given the AP being punished for its speech.

I don't find the AP dust-up to be abridgement of speech at all.

Try harder to be offended.

[Horace]

No, the AP thing is slim rhetorical pickings, but when's that ever stopped anybody.

[Jolly]

[Jolly]

A bit more humorous take...

[Doctor Phibes]

I don't think the speech was really aimed at Europeans.

[Renauda]

@Doctor-Phibes

I didn’t see it that way either.

[Copper]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Vance:

I don't think the speech was really aimed at Europeans.

Maybe not, but it was clearly aimed at those who live in Europe now.

May the peace of the prophet be with him.

[Jolly]

ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّٰهِ

[Doctor Phibes]

@Copper said in Vance:

@Doctor-Phibes said in Vance:

I don't think the speech was really aimed at Europeans.

Maybe not, but it was clearly aimed at those who live in Europe now.

May the peace of the prophet be with him.

Is it possible that if America hadn't decided to "improve" things quite so much in the Middle East under a previous Republican administration that there wouldn't be quite so many Muslims trying to get into Europe now?

However, you're wrong. Vance's primary target audience was quite a bit West of the EU and UK.

[jon-nyc]

[Horace]

@Horace said in Vance:

I liked the speech. I am not convinced that America has a lot to lose if progressive European governments get offended. I am also aware that beneath those governments and their talking points, are populations of people who resonate with Vance's speech. Which I assume was an important part of the calculation. Populist outreach.

VDH agrees with me, at 31:30

Link to video

[Renauda]

With the hat Hanson looks like the Salvatore Tessio character played by Abe Vigoda in The Godfather.

Micheal Corleone had him whacked in the movie for betraying the family. Just sayin’.

[Horace]

@Renauda You would not be a Hanson fan if you listened more to his daily podcasts.

[Renauda]

Probably not, but that’s neither here nor there. The couple of his WWII history lectures I have listened to I thought were pretty good. Not as nearly good as many others though.