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  • K kluurs
    9 Feb 2025, 03:41

    @jon-nyc said in Quiet here:

    I don’t know. I haven’t tested for anything. Cough, fever, sniffles.

    Same symptoms here. I'll do the Covid test tomorrow.

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 10 Feb 2025, 20:27 last edited by
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    @kluurs said in Quiet here:

    @jon-nyc said in Quiet here:

    I don’t know. I haven’t tested for anything. Cough, fever, sniffles.

    Same symptoms here. I'll do the Covid test tomorrow.

    And? I was Covid negative last night.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      blondie
      wrote on 10 Feb 2025, 21:46 last edited by
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      @Horace Wow. Calculus. How excellent. You’re a smart one!

      H 1 Reply Last reply 10 Feb 2025, 23:02
      • B blondie
        10 Feb 2025, 21:46

        @Horace Wow. Calculus. How excellent. You’re a smart one!

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        Horace
        wrote on 10 Feb 2025, 23:02 last edited by
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        @blondie Well, they teach this stuff in high school to the brighter kids. I will not be surprised if I get humbled as I attempt to progress through post-graduate classes.

        Education is extremely important.

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          Horace
          wrote on 12 Feb 2025, 14:39 last edited by
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          Good news and bad news about my test score. I got a 95, because the professor is reasonable with the partial credit. In a five point problem, if you made a calculator error at the final step, you only lose one point. This is how I scraped by with the 95. Bad news is that the whole class did well, with a median score of 89, so the time limit apparently wasn't an issue for very many people. I'll have to recalibrate how fast I go on these exams.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • H Horace
            12 Feb 2025, 14:39

            Good news and bad news about my test score. I got a 95, because the professor is reasonable with the partial credit. In a five point problem, if you made a calculator error at the final step, you only lose one point. This is how I scraped by with the 95. Bad news is that the whole class did well, with a median score of 89, so the time limit apparently wasn't an issue for very many people. I'll have to recalibrate how fast I go on these exams.

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            taiwan_girl
            wrote on 12 Feb 2025, 18:42 last edited by
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            @Horace said in Quiet here:

            if you made a calculator error at the final step, you only lose one point. This is how I scraped by with the 95.

            That is good. It proves that you know "how" to do the problem. That is more important than getting the right answer buy not understanding how you got it.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 12 Feb 2025, 20:28 last edited by jon-nyc 2 Dec 2025, 20:31
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              Just curious, Horace, how does o3-mini do on that test? Or any other reasoning model?

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • J jon-nyc
                12 Feb 2025, 20:28

                Just curious, Horace, how does o3-mini do on that test? Or any other reasoning model?

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                Horace
                wrote on 12 Feb 2025, 20:49 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc Mosty standard derivatives and integrals, so I guess pretty well. For instance, https://www.symbolab.com/solver/integral-calculator is able to solve any of them, though that's a hand-written system of logic rather than a generative AI.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  kluurs
                  wrote on 12 Feb 2025, 21:04 last edited by
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                  I think I told this story once before. In high school calc, our teacher liked to give power tests - essentially tests that could not be completed in the time provided. Calculators hadn't been invented at that point in time. When we got to integral calculus I did the test but failed to add "+C", C being the constant. He deducted a point for every question. Next power test - I went through all 70 questions and wrote "+C" before starting any calculations. He have me partial credit for them - of course, that sparked some disdain from the rest of the class. The instructor assured us this was the last time he would allow that gambit. From my perspective, karma and equilibrium had been restored to my personal universe.

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                  • J jon-nyc
                    12 Feb 2025, 20:28

                    Just curious, Horace, how does o3-mini do on that test? Or any other reasoning model?

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 12 Feb 2025, 21:10 last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc Actually come to think of it, that website can't do solids of revolution problems where you have to set up the integral and solve it rather than solve a given integral. It would be interesting how the AIs would do on those. Could try a slightly complicated one like "the volume of the solid of revolution about y=7 of the region between y=x^2 and y=x".

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • K kluurs
                      12 Feb 2025, 21:04

                      I think I told this story once before. In high school calc, our teacher liked to give power tests - essentially tests that could not be completed in the time provided. Calculators hadn't been invented at that point in time. When we got to integral calculus I did the test but failed to add "+C", C being the constant. He deducted a point for every question. Next power test - I went through all 70 questions and wrote "+C" before starting any calculations. He have me partial credit for them - of course, that sparked some disdain from the rest of the class. The instructor assured us this was the last time he would allow that gambit. From my perspective, karma and equilibrium had been restored to my personal universe.

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                      Horace
                      wrote on 12 Feb 2025, 21:11 last edited by
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                      @kluurs said in Quiet here:

                      I think I told this story once before. In high school calc, our teacher liked to give power tests - essentially tests that could not be completed in the time provided. Calculators hadn't been invented at that point in time. When we got to integral calculus I did the test but failed to add "+C", C being the constant. He deducted a point for every question. Next power test - I went through all 70 questions and wrote "+C" before starting any calculations. He have me partial credit for them - of course, that sparked some disdain from the rest of the class. The instructor assured us this was the last time he would allow that gambit. From my perspective, karma and equilibrium had been restored to my personal universe.

                      That's well gamed. And the teacher accepted his loss gracefully.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 15 Feb 2025, 20:10 last edited by
                        #42

                        Compare this Saturday’s active threads vs last week’s…

                        The Brad

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                        • L LuFins Dad
                          15 Feb 2025, 20:10

                          Compare this Saturday’s active threads vs last week’s…

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                          Copper
                          wrote on 15 Feb 2025, 21:23 last edited by
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                          @LuFins-Dad said in Quiet here:

                          Compare this Saturday’s active threads vs last week’s…

                          Nobody ever said this would be easy.

                          But maybe we could ask Mr. Musk if he could take a moment and cut a few threads.

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 15 Feb 2025, 21:46 last edited by
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                            How do you do that comparison?

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 15 Feb 2025, 21:59 last edited by
                              #45

                              From memory it’s much busier today.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                Mik
                                wrote on 15 Feb 2025, 22:02 last edited by
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                                Good questions to discuss today.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • M Mik
                                  15 Feb 2025, 21:46

                                  How do you do that comparison?

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 15 Feb 2025, 23:13 last edited by
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                                  @Mik said in Quiet here:

                                  How do you do that comparison?

                                  Just the first post in this thread tells the story. There were no active threads for most of the day on Saturday. Even after Jon’s thread, it never got busy. Today? This place is slamming’…

                                  The Brad

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