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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 9 Feb 2025, 00:35 last edited by
    #18

    I’ve wondered if hotels cost themselves money by charging so much for that crap instead of just charging appropriately and getting higher volume.

    The Brad

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 9 Feb 2025, 00:52 last edited by
      #19

      Yeah. I regularly buy outside water when I can. I’ll bet if you did a study you’d see more reasonable prices when there’s a CVS or something nearby the hotel.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
      L 1 Reply Last reply 9 Feb 2025, 01:33
      • J jon-nyc
        9 Feb 2025, 00:25

        I’m hydrating at $9 a bottle.

        Fucking hotels.

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        Renauda
        wrote on 9 Feb 2025, 01:09 last edited by Renauda 2 Sept 2025, 01:20
        #20

        @jon-nyc said in Quiet here:

        I’m hydrating at $9 a bottle.

        Fucking hotels.

        I normally just use the ice machine down the hall and/or water from the tap. In North America and Hawaii that is. Elsewhere, always bottled or boiled water.

        Elbows up!

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        • J jon-nyc
          9 Feb 2025, 00:52

          Yeah. I regularly buy outside water when I can. I’ll bet if you did a study you’d see more reasonable prices when there’s a CVS or something nearby the hotel.

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 9 Feb 2025, 01:33 last edited by
          #21

          @jon-nyc said in Quiet here:

          Yeah. I regularly buy outside water when I can. I’ll bet if you did a study you’d see more reasonable prices when there’s a CVS or something nearby the hotel.

          I was a little shocked at the hotel bar in Manhattan. I could walk out the door and down 100 feet and be at multiple bars that charged relatively normal prices for drinks. But the hotel bar wanted $25 for a glass of rail whiskey.

          The Brad

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          • R Renauda
            9 Feb 2025, 01:09

            @jon-nyc said in Quiet here:

            I’m hydrating at $9 a bottle.

            Fucking hotels.

            I normally just use the ice machine down the hall and/or water from the tap. In North America and Hawaii that is. Elsewhere, always bottled or boiled water.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 9 Feb 2025, 01:37 last edited by
            #22

            @Renauda said in Quiet here:

            @jon-nyc said in Quiet here:

            I’m hydrating at $9 a bottle.

            Fucking hotels.

            I normally just use the ice machine down the hall and/or water from the tap. In North America and Hawaii that is. Elsewhere, always bottled or boiled water.

            Yeah but when you’re sick enough you’ll pay $9 not to do that.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
            R 1 Reply Last reply 9 Feb 2025, 02:27
            • J jon-nyc
              8 Feb 2025, 23:16

              You can combine the two. It does reduce napping time by 2 minutes.

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              Mik
              wrote on 9 Feb 2025, 02:11 last edited by
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              @jon-nyc said in Quiet here:

              You can combine the two. It does reduce napping time by 2 minutes.

              😆😆😆😆

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • H Horace
                8 Feb 2025, 23:29

                Took my first Calc 2 midterm this morning, in my all-online class. They have interesting systems these days. First they have a "biometric" ID system where you show your driver license to the webcam, then use your mouse to "sign" a password. You repeat that signature a few times, and then they make you provide that password before the exam. You have to use a special "lockdown" browser which takes your whole screen and prevents you from opening any other windows. Before the test, you sweep your room with the webcam to establish you don't have cheat sheets on the walls. Then you keep the webcam trained on your face for the whole test. There was a two hour time limit and it was brutal. 19 mostly non-trivial questions, so I didn't have time to ponder. Either you are perfectly fluid with the techniques, or you are toast. Filled up five sides of 8x11 paper. I got through all of the questions, but I know I missed at least one due to haste. Hopefully that's the only one I missed, but I am not betting on it. It will be interesting to see the curve. The online grade system gives you a grade distribution, like where the quartile cutoffs are.

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                Copper
                wrote on 9 Feb 2025, 02:21 last edited by
                #24

                @Horace said in Quiet here:

                They have interesting systems these days.

                That is a challenge.

                It seems like there must be some holes in that system.

                They need some of those glasses like Tom Cruise has where the guy in the truck can see everything that Tom sees.

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                • J jon-nyc
                  9 Feb 2025, 01:37

                  @Renauda said in Quiet here:

                  @jon-nyc said in Quiet here:

                  I’m hydrating at $9 a bottle.

                  Fucking hotels.

                  I normally just use the ice machine down the hall and/or water from the tap. In North America and Hawaii that is. Elsewhere, always bottled or boiled water.

                  Yeah but when you’re sick enough you’ll pay $9 not to do that.

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 9 Feb 2025, 02:27 last edited by Renauda 2 Sept 2025, 06:16
                  #25

                  @jon-nyc said in Quiet here:

                  @Renauda said in Quiet here:

                  @jon-nyc said in Quiet here:

                  I’m hydrating at $9 a bottle.

                  Fucking hotels.

                  I normally just use the ice machine down the hall and/or water from the tap. In North America and Hawaii that is. Elsewhere, always bottled or boiled water.

                  Yeah but when you’re sick enough you’ll pay $9 not to do that.

                  True enough. I recall being there in a hotel on at least one occasion at the end of a trade show.

                  Came down with an influenza that flattened me for at least four days. I lived on room service deliveries of French Onion Soup and black bread and carafes of coffee. Luckily it was one of the better western managed hotels in Moscow at the time. No way though I could travel and had to rebook a flight to Cyprus leaving me with only one day to spare on my 3 year multi-entry visa before expiration. At the time I had to go to Cyprus to get my multi entry visa extended for at least another 90 days at which I time would go back to Canada and, among other things, get a new visa.

                  I recall it all very well because during those fever ridden down days in the hotel room, that right wing terrorist and nutter, Timothy McVeigh, bombed Oklahoma City.

                  Elbows up!

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 9 Feb 2025, 02:40 last edited by jon-nyc 2 Sept 2025, 02:41
                    #26

                    I was driving from central CT to central Jersey to be the best man in a friend’s wedding when that happened. It happened early in the drive and I listened to live coverage on NPR the whole day.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 9 Feb 2025, 02:46 last edited by
                      #27

                      Luke’s godmother’s mother was in the building. She didn’t die in the blast, but 6 months later from all the shit she inhaled.

                      The Brad

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                      • C Copper
                        9 Feb 2025, 02:21

                        @Horace said in Quiet here:

                        They have interesting systems these days.

                        That is a challenge.

                        It seems like there must be some holes in that system.

                        They need some of those glasses like Tom Cruise has where the guy in the truck can see everything that Tom sees.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 9 Feb 2025, 03:15 last edited by
                        #28

                        @Copper said in Quiet here:

                        @Horace said in Quiet here:

                        They have interesting systems these days.

                        That is a challenge.

                        It seems like there must be some holes in that system.

                        They need some of those glasses like Tom Cruise has where the guy in the truck can see everything that Tom sees.

                        Oh, it would be easy to cheat, even with their precautions. I am sure some students do. Could just flip the keyboard and monitor to a hidden laptop, and use online tools to solve the integrals and derivatives. They provide the whole step by step solution, not just an answer, so the scratch paper will still look good. The webcam can't see your monitor.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • J jon-nyc
                          9 Feb 2025, 00:21

                          I don’t know. I haven’t tested for anything. Cough, fever, sniffles.

                          The boy had something similar S-Tue, but I flew out Tuesday and this hit me Friday afternoon. He was Covid negative.

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                          kluurs
                          wrote on 9 Feb 2025, 03:41 last edited by
                          #29

                          @jon-nyc said in Quiet here:

                          I don’t know. I haven’t tested for anything. Cough, fever, sniffles.

                          Same symptoms here. I'll do the Covid test tomorrow.

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                          • L LuFins Dad
                            9 Feb 2025, 02:46

                            Luke’s godmother’s mother was in the building. She didn’t die in the blast, but 6 months later from all the shit she inhaled.

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 9 Feb 2025, 04:11 last edited by Mik 2 Sept 2025, 04:12
                            #30

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Quiet here:

                            Luke’s godmother’s mother was in the building. She didn’t die in the blast, but 6 months later from all the shit she inhaled.

                            I vividly remember driving thru Indiana the day McVeigh was executed. AMF.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • H Horace
                              8 Feb 2025, 23:29

                              Took my first Calc 2 midterm this morning, in my all-online class. They have interesting systems these days. First they have a "biometric" ID system where you show your driver license to the webcam, then use your mouse to "sign" a password. You repeat that signature a few times, and then they make you provide that password before the exam. You have to use a special "lockdown" browser which takes your whole screen and prevents you from opening any other windows. Before the test, you sweep your room with the webcam to establish you don't have cheat sheets on the walls. Then you keep the webcam trained on your face for the whole test. There was a two hour time limit and it was brutal. 19 mostly non-trivial questions, so I didn't have time to ponder. Either you are perfectly fluid with the techniques, or you are toast. Filled up five sides of 8x11 paper. I got through all of the questions, but I know I missed at least one due to haste. Hopefully that's the only one I missed, but I am not betting on it. It will be interesting to see the curve. The online grade system gives you a grade distribution, like where the quartile cutoffs are.

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                              taiwan_girl
                              wrote on 10 Feb 2025, 17:57 last edited by
                              #31

                              @Horace Good luck!!

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                              • K kluurs
                                9 Feb 2025, 03:41

                                @jon-nyc said in Quiet here:

                                I don’t know. I haven’t tested for anything. Cough, fever, sniffles.

                                Same symptoms here. I'll do the Covid test tomorrow.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 10 Feb 2025, 20:27 last edited by
                                #32

                                @kluurs said in Quiet here:

                                @jon-nyc said in Quiet here:

                                I don’t know. I haven’t tested for anything. Cough, fever, sniffles.

                                Same symptoms here. I'll do the Covid test tomorrow.

                                And? I was Covid negative last night.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  blondie
                                  wrote on 10 Feb 2025, 21:46 last edited by
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                                  @Horace Wow. Calculus. How excellent. You’re a smart one!

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                                  • B blondie
                                    10 Feb 2025, 21:46

                                    @Horace Wow. Calculus. How excellent. You’re a smart one!

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 10 Feb 2025, 23:02 last edited by
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                                    @blondie Well, they teach this stuff in high school to the brighter kids. I will not be surprised if I get humbled as I attempt to progress through post-graduate classes.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on 12 Feb 2025, 14:39 last edited by
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                                      Good news and bad news about my test score. I got a 95, because the professor is reasonable with the partial credit. In a five point problem, if you made a calculator error at the final step, you only lose one point. This is how I scraped by with the 95. Bad news is that the whole class did well, with a median score of 89, so the time limit apparently wasn't an issue for very many people. I'll have to recalibrate how fast I go on these exams.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • H Horace
                                        12 Feb 2025, 14:39

                                        Good news and bad news about my test score. I got a 95, because the professor is reasonable with the partial credit. In a five point problem, if you made a calculator error at the final step, you only lose one point. This is how I scraped by with the 95. Bad news is that the whole class did well, with a median score of 89, so the time limit apparently wasn't an issue for very many people. I'll have to recalibrate how fast I go on these exams.

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                                        taiwan_girl
                                        wrote on 12 Feb 2025, 18:42 last edited by
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                                        @Horace said in Quiet here:

                                        if you made a calculator error at the final step, you only lose one point. This is how I scraped by with the 95.

                                        That is good. It proves that you know "how" to do the problem. That is more important than getting the right answer buy not understanding how you got it.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 12 Feb 2025, 20:28 last edited by jon-nyc 2 Dec 2025, 20:31
                                          #37

                                          Just curious, Horace, how does o3-mini do on that test? Or any other reasoning model?

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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