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  • JollyJ Offline
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    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/poll-before-even-launching-ohio-gov-run-ramaswamy-has-big-lead-in-gop-primary/

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      That's good. I like him, and I think he's more mature than he let on in the presidential campaign.

      Education is extremely important.

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        I wonder if his primary opponent will make a big deal of his ‘American culture sucks Indian culture is great’ tweet.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          #4

          Vivek's tweet:


          The reason top tech companies often hire foreign-born & first-generation engineers over “native” Americans isn’t because of an innate American IQ deficit (a lazy & wrong explanation). A key part of it comes down to the c-word: culture. Tough questions demand tough answers & if we’re really serious about fixing the problem, we have to confront the TRUTH:

          Our American culture has venerated mediocrity over excellence for way too long (at least since the 90s and likely longer). That doesn’t start in college, it starts YOUNG.

          A culture that celebrates the prom queen over the math olympiad champ, or the jock over the valedictorian, will not produce the best engineers.

          A culture that venerates Cory from “Boy Meets World,” or Zach & Slater over Screech in “Saved by the Bell,” or ‘Stefan’ over Steve Urkel in “Family Matters,” will not produce the best engineers.

          (Fact: I know multiple sets of immigrant parents in the 90s who actively limited how much their kids could watch those TV shows precisely because they promoted mediocrity…and their kids went on to become wildly successful STEM graduates).

          More movies like Whiplash, fewer reruns of “Friends.” More math tutoring, fewer sleepovers. More weekend science competitions, fewer Saturday morning cartoons. More books, less TV. More creating, less “chillin.” More extracurriculars, less “hanging out at the mall.”

          Most normal American parents look skeptically at “those kinds of parents.” More normal American kids view such “those kinds of kids” with scorn. If you grow up aspiring to normalcy, normalcy is what you will achieve.

          Now close your eyes & visualize which families you knew in the 90s (or even now) who raise their kids according to one model versus the other. Be brutally honest.

          “Normalcy” doesn’t cut it in a hyper-competitive global market for technical talent. And if we pretend like it does, we’ll have our asses handed to us by China.

          This can be our Sputnik moment. We’ve awaken from slumber before & we can do it again. Trump’s election hopefully marks the beginning of a new golden era in America, but only if our culture fully wakes up. A culture that once again prioritizes achievement over normalcy; excellence over mediocrity; nerdiness over conformity; hard work over laziness.

          That’s the work we have cut out for us, rather than wallowing in victimhood & just wishing (or legislating) alternative hiring practices into existence. I’m confident we can do it. 🇺🇸 🇺🇸

          Education is extremely important.

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            Horace
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            Seems on-brand for someone who has written books, and forged a political career, battling against mainstream popular American culture. People who take it personally might not tend towards being Republican.

            Education is extremely important.

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              Tell that to Steve Bannon and his audience.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                I think he’s a very smart guy. But I don’t think he has the connections or experience to be an effective governor.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  Tell that to Steve Bannon and his audience.

                  JollyJ Offline
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                  @jon-nyc said in Vivek!:

                  Tell that to Steve Bannon and his audience.

                  I don't think Steve Bannon would have problem with Vivek's statement. I've said similar things multiple times.

                  I don't consider myself a raging Leftist.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    Bannon doesn't like H1Bs in general, even if he might admit that they bring in better workers. He wants the relatively lower level American workers to get those jobs.

                    Education is extremely important.

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