Bourdain was a pretty smart guy.
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He worked in kitchens. Ever hear the thing about the mechanic owning the shittiest car, the janitor's house being the messiest? Yeah, cooks and chefs basically eat microwaved garbage when they aren't on YouTube. Bourdain, being a kitchen guy, was no exception to the stereotype.
That being said, boomers and millennials freaking love to play the coffee game.
For boomers, they assign themselves more man points the more scalding, more shitty, more convenient, less expensive, and less well-made it is. Boiling hot motor oil bullshit made with stale, overground Starbucks pods with no cream or sugar is what you need to win, but bonus points if you say you had Waffle House today.
For millennials, the game's the same except they go the other way. It doesn't count unless it came from a $3999 espresso machine, you misted the beans before you ground them and you made a TikTok (too soon?) slo-mo of the extraction.
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I'm sure we'd never catch anybody doing that sort of thing with tea
(My Russian friend appeared this week with some stuff he bought in China, along with a funny pot and some tiny little china cups to drink it from. I have to admit, it tasted pretty damn good).
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With the exception of the paper cup it’s pretty much exactly how I feel about it.
Oh, and strong and black.
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With coffee (or tea), I think it is more about the atmosphere and ritual that goes along with it. Maybe sharing with friends, sitting around talking, etc. I father was very specific about the ritual of drinking tea; smell, pre heating the cup, etc. There is comfort in doing things in a certain way and you can associate relaxation or something like that with the ritual.
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He worked in kitchens. Ever hear the thing about the mechanic owning the shittiest car, the janitor's house being the messiest? Yeah, cooks and chefs basically eat microwaved garbage when they aren't on YouTube. Bourdain, being a kitchen guy, was no exception to the stereotype.
That being said, boomers and millennials freaking love to play the coffee game.
For boomers, they assign themselves more man points the more scalding, more shitty, more convenient, less expensive, and less well-made it is. Boiling hot motor oil bullshit made with stale, overground Starbucks pods with no cream or sugar is what you need to win, but bonus points if you say you had Waffle House today.
For millennials, the game's the same except they go the other way. It doesn't count unless it came from a $3999 espresso machine, you misted the beans before you ground them and you made a TikTok (too soon?) slo-mo of the extraction.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Bourdain was a pretty smart guy.:
For millennials, the game's the same except they go the other way. It doesn't count unless it came from a $3999 espresso machine, you misted the beans before you ground them and you made a TikTok (too soon?) slo-mo of the extraction.
That reminds me, time for my morning cup from my Jura E8.
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I'm sure we'd never catch anybody doing that sort of thing with tea
(My Russian friend appeared this week with some stuff he bought in China, along with a funny pot and some tiny little china cups to drink it from. I have to admit, it tasted pretty damn good).
@Doctor-Phibes said in Bourdain was a pretty smart guy.:
I'm sure we'd never catch anybody doing that sort of thing with tea
I do. It's pretty obnoxious but the tea keeps my blood pressure down and it gives me a good reason to keep using my great-grandmother's teacups.
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I drink coffee black, I drink it strong, and I drink too much. But you will never hear me brag about drinking it from Waffle House…
You are quite correct on both counts, though. There is a culture that loves to brag about preparing food in just the right way, with very expensive cookware or devices and rare and exotic spices. Then there’s the other side that brags about cooking it as basic and rustic as could be… “I built a fire, rolled the steak in some leaves, put it on a stick, and held it over the fire for 43 seconds…”
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Bourdain was a pretty smart guy.:
For millennials, the game's the same except they go the other way. It doesn't count unless it came from a $3999 espresso machine, you misted the beans before you ground them and you made a TikTok (too soon?) slo-mo of the extraction.
That reminds me, time for my morning cup from my Jura E8.
@Horace said in Bourdain was a pretty smart guy.:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Bourdain was a pretty smart guy.:
For millennials, the game's the same except they go the other way. It doesn't count unless it came from a $3999 espresso machine, you misted the beans before you ground them and you made a TikTok (too soon?) slo-mo of the extraction.
That reminds me, time for my morning cup from my Jura E8.
See you're trending millennial, but a Jura E8 is almost normal considering how insane things have gotten lately.
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Should I buy the TIMEMORE 078SSP Coffee Grinder for $1099? Or can I get by with the base model for $799? https://www.timemore.com/products/timemore-electric-coffee-grinder-sculptor-series
I will be using it in conjunction with my pour over scale, of course. It’s a steal at $159 https://www.timemore.com/products/timemore-coffee-scale-black-mirror-duo
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I drink coffee black, I drink it strong, and I drink too much. But you will never hear me brag about drinking it from Waffle House…
You are quite correct on both counts, though. There is a culture that loves to brag about preparing food in just the right way, with very expensive cookware or devices and rare and exotic spices. Then there’s the other side that brags about cooking it as basic and rustic as could be… “I built a fire, rolled the steak in some leaves, put it on a stick, and held it over the fire for 43 seconds…”
@LuFins-Dad said in Bourdain was a pretty smart guy.:
I drink coffee black, I drink it strong, and I drink too much. But you will never hear me brag about drinking it from Waffle House…
You are quite correct on both counts, though. There is a culture that loves to brag about preparing food in just the right way, with very expensive cookware or devices and rare and exotic spices. Then there’s the other side that brags about cooking it as basic and rustic as could be… “I built a fire, rolled the steak in some leaves, put it on a stick, and held it over the fire for 43 seconds…”
And I'm somewhere in the middle. i want good quality strong black coffee, but I don't think I have to go to Starbuck's to get it.
I like to cook something complicated at times, but only if I think it's going to taste great and be pretty healthy. I don't buy massively expensive cookwear and tools because I think it's wasteful. It's like smokers and grills - learn to cook on what you have. Developing that judgement will help you more than buying a $3K smoker.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Bourdain was a pretty smart guy.:
I drink coffee black, I drink it strong, and I drink too much. But you will never hear me brag about drinking it from Waffle House…
You are quite correct on both counts, though. There is a culture that loves to brag about preparing food in just the right way, with very expensive cookware or devices and rare and exotic spices. Then there’s the other side that brags about cooking it as basic and rustic as could be… “I built a fire, rolled the steak in some leaves, put it on a stick, and held it over the fire for 43 seconds…”
And I'm somewhere in the middle. i want good quality strong black coffee, but I don't think I have to go to Starbuck's to get it.
I like to cook something complicated at times, but only if I think it's going to taste great and be pretty healthy. I don't buy massively expensive cookwear and tools because I think it's wasteful. It's like smokers and grills - learn to cook on what you have. Developing that judgement will help you more than buying a $3K smoker.
@Mik said in Bourdain was a pretty smart guy.:
I like to cook something complicated at times, but only if I think it's going to taste great and be pretty healthy. I don't buy massively expensive cookwear and tools because I think it's wasteful. It's like smokers and grills - learn to cook on what you have. Developing that judgement will help you more than buying a $3K smoker.
Ayep. 2 good knives, a decent cutting board and a pan can get you pretty damn far.
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@Mik said in Bourdain was a pretty smart guy.:
I like to cook something complicated at times, but only if I think it's going to taste great and be pretty healthy. I don't buy massively expensive cookwear and tools because I think it's wasteful. It's like smokers and grills - learn to cook on what you have. Developing that judgement will help you more than buying a $3K smoker.
Ayep. 2 good knives, a decent cutting board and a pan can get you pretty damn far.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Bourdain was a pretty smart guy.:
@Mik said in Bourdain was a pretty smart guy.:
I like to cook something complicated at times, but only if I think it's going to taste great and be pretty healthy. I don't buy massively expensive cookwear and tools because I think it's wasteful. It's like smokers and grills - learn to cook on what you have. Developing that judgement will help you more than buying a $3K smoker.
Ayep. 2 good knives, a decent cutting board and a pan can get you pretty damn far.
Careful… That’s sounding pretty close to a minimalist brag…
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And I am one of those guys that is a minimalist braggart for cooking. I was obviously joking about rolling it in leaves to spice it, but I am fascinated with primitive outdoor cooking. I am far more likely to build a cinder block smoker than but a big unit. Not because of the cost, but because it’s more primitive l…
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Bourdain was a pretty smart guy.:
@Mik said in Bourdain was a pretty smart guy.:
I like to cook something complicated at times, but only if I think it's going to taste great and be pretty healthy. I don't buy massively expensive cookwear and tools because I think it's wasteful. It's like smokers and grills - learn to cook on what you have. Developing that judgement will help you more than buying a $3K smoker.
Ayep. 2 good knives, a decent cutting board and a pan can get you pretty damn far.
Careful… That’s sounding pretty close to a minimalist brag…
@LuFins-Dad said in Bourdain was a pretty smart guy.:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Bourdain was a pretty smart guy.:
@Mik said in Bourdain was a pretty smart guy.:
I like to cook something complicated at times, but only if I think it's going to taste great and be pretty healthy. I don't buy massively expensive cookwear and tools because I think it's wasteful. It's like smokers and grills - learn to cook on what you have. Developing that judgement will help you more than buying a $3K smoker.
Ayep. 2 good knives, a decent cutting board and a pan can get you pretty damn far.
Careful… That’s sounding pretty close to a minimalist brag…
No, I've just worked in kitchens and I was taught how to use a knife.