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If this is true, it's horrible

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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on last edited by
    #6

    Yeah, not a good idea.

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      A public employee's name is public record. If classified, so is their salary.

      Deal with it.

      MikM Away
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      Mik
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      #7

      @Jolly said in If this is true, it's horrible:

      A public employee's name is public record. If classified, so is their salary.

      Deal with it.

      Publicizing it for your purposes just flat out wrong. Lots of things are available to the public. That doesn’t make them cannon fodder.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        #8

        In general, I’m seeing far too much personal vitriol toward the people in these roles. As if they created them. Like it or not, the institution wrote the job description and advertised the role. Someone interviewed for it and got it. Sure, let’s eliminate the roles and lay them off with some appropriate notice. But if you’re looking for someone to be angry at blame the institution.

        Of course it’s different if someone is known to have done something horrible, like that chick at Columbia who was texting derogatory comments about Jews. But for your average person filling the seat, they don’t deserve personal abuse.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • CopperC Offline
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          Copper
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          #9

          They are were just doing their job, which is was making people hate white males.

          Just doing their jobs.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            In general, I’m seeing far too much personal vitriol toward the people in these roles. As if they created them. Like it or not, the institution wrote the job description and advertised the role. Someone interviewed for it and got it. Sure, let’s eliminate the roles and lay them off with some appropriate notice. But if you’re looking for someone to be angry at blame the institution.

            Of course it’s different if someone is known to have done something horrible, like that chick at Columbia who was texting derogatory comments about Jews. But for your average person filling the seat, they don’t deserve personal abuse.

            MikM Away
            MikM Away
            Mik
            wrote on last edited by Mik
            #10

            @jon-nyc said in If this is true, it's horrible:

            In general, I’m seeing far too much personal vitriol toward the people in these roles. As if they created them. Like it or not, the institution wrote the job description and advertised the role. Someone interviewed for it and got it. Sure, let’s eliminate the roles and lay them off with some appropriate notice. But if you’re looking for someone to be angry at blame the institution.

            Of course it’s different if someone is known to have done something horrible, like that chick at Columbia who was texting derogatory comments about Jews. But for your average person filling the seat, they don’t deserve personal abuse.

            I'd have to disagree. That's situational ethics. if someone did horrible thing X it's ok for me to do horrible thing Y to them. I naively hope for a return to civility someday.

            Again though, that's IF this is true. I haven't heard anything else about it so it may not be.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              #11

              Hey @Mik while I generally agree with you about making the positions a target and not the people, what about situations like this?

              The Brad

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              • HoraceH Offline
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                Horace
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                #12

                It's funny how they manage to jam a "meritocracy" into a DEI office. I mean, how else would they possibly justify the salaries of the top people?

                Education is extremely important.

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  jon-nyc
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                  #13

                  Not that it affects his point at all, but I’m calling BS on his math. Ain’t no way that’s 125 teachers.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    Hey @Mik while I generally agree with you about making the positions a target and not the people, what about situations like this?

                    MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by Mik
                    #14

                    @LuFins-Dad said in If this is true, it's horrible:

                    Hey @Mik while I generally agree with you about making the positions a target and not the people, what about situations like this?

                    What about it? There is no legitimate reason to list those names. The individuals are not the problem. It’s the department and positions.

                    I also question that there are 52 people dedicated to DEI.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Mik

                      @LuFins-Dad said in If this is true, it's horrible:

                      Hey @Mik while I generally agree with you about making the positions a target and not the people, what about situations like this?

                      What about it? There is no legitimate reason to list those names. The individuals are not the problem. It’s the department and positions.

                      I also question that there are 52 people dedicated to DEI.

                      LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
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                      #15

                      @Mik said in If this is true, it's horrible:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in If this is true, it's horrible:

                      Hey @Mik while I generally agree with you about making the positions a target and not the people, what about situations like this?

                      What about it? There is no legitimate reason to list those names. The individuals are not the problem. It’s the department and positions.

                      I also question that there are 52 people dedicated to DEI.

                      Here’s the newspaper article the image and the receipts are pulled from.

                      https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/pricetag-of-equity-in-fairfax-county-schools-6-4-million/article_6e14ee46-db8a-11ef-ba7b-4b737bdff938.html

                      The Brad

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                      • MikM Away
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                        Mik
                        wrote on last edited by Mik
                        #16

                        Ok. Get shed of as many as you can. Still no need to publish their names.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • MikM Mik

                          Ok. Get shed of as many as you can. Still no need to publish their names.

                          LuFins DadL Offline
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                          LuFins Dad
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                          @Mik said in If this is true, it's horrible:

                          Ok. Get shed of as many as you can. Still no need to publish their names.

                          I’m not disagreeing, but is the guilty party the X poster, or the newspaper and/or the journalist that put it together?

                          The Brad

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                          • MikM Away
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                            Mik
                            wrote on last edited by Mik
                            #18

                            All of the above. They all did it. Who did it first may be a difference of degree, but not by much.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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