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I recommended a lawyer

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    D2 (she's the psych doctor practicing in Milwaukee) has been working in a clinic in Milwaukee doing assessments, supervising students and a bit of therapy.

    She called this evening and told me that her clinic has been bought by someone. This person seems on the up-and-up according to colleagues who know her and her practice. The new owner said that, as far as clinical work goes, nothing should change.

    However, the money is in supervising students. When you start looking at the billing for this, it's a mess. How much you can bill for supervising a student, how much you get, and the morass of regulations regarding Medicaid, etc is confusing as hell.

    Apparently the new buyer has indicated that there will be some changes in the way supervision is billed.

    Don't ask me how, I don't get it, and I don't understand.

    So my fatherly advice was, "Get in touch with an attorney who deals with this kind of stuff." Probably money well spent.

    Where should she begin to look? What kind of practice?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      I forwarded my post to her. She added:

      The only thing I’d add is if anyone is familiar with “incident to billing” procedures.

      I have an email out to the Wisconsin Psych Association. As a member, I can access their attorney.

      WPA has been my greatest ally in things like this. We’ll worth the $300 a year for free consults

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • MikM Away
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        Mik
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        Good I wouldn’t know how to find someone that specialized.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
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          I think the trade organization is the best source of referral.

          You were warned.

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          • B Offline
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            blondie
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            #5

            Yeah, I’d get the imput from my professional association.
            Question: Is she paid by the clinic, or does she have her own business ( like a professional corporation) and pays the clinic for her office space and billing support? Secondly, are the students her own or the clinic’s?

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            • B blondie

              Yeah, I’d get the imput from my professional association.
              Question: Is she paid by the clinic, or does she have her own business ( like a professional corporation) and pays the clinic for her office space and billing support? Secondly, are the students her own or the clinic’s?

              George KG Offline
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              George K
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              @blondie said in I recommended a lawyer:

              Question: Is she paid by the clinic, or does she have her own business ( like a professional corporation) and pays the clinic for her office space and billing support?

              She is an independent contractor. I'm unsure about the use of space and billing. I imagine they have some kind of arrangement.

              Secondly, are the students her own or the clinic’s?

              The students are from a nearby professional school. The clinic has a deal with the school.

              It's all too complicated for me.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                blondie
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                It can get complicated. A lawyer and her professional association will help her. If she does virtual counselling and virtual supervision, this adds another layer of mayhem, because those hours can occur physically outside the clinic for both the counsellor and the client. I think BSc & MSc practicum students don’t get paid themselves, but MSc provisional psychologists might. And if so, who pays them and at what rate? If she supervises provisional psychologists, those hours can pay well because those “students” can pay for her time directly. It becomes a matter of who owns or gets a piece of her time both inside and outside the clinic. My kid is going through something similar now.

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                • George KG Offline
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                  Yeah, she's going to the APA counsel.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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