Does Trump reverse course on the deal he’s so proud of?
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wrote on 16 Jan 2025, 18:05 last edited by
Then tell Hamas don't start a war you can't finish. Acts of barbarity tend to be returned in kind.
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Until you eradicate the trash of the Arab world - the so-called Palestinians - you're going to see them celebrate victory even in defeat. If one is not aware of their constant attempt to influence local and world opinion through propaganda and psyops, you've been living under a rock or you're lying to yourself.
In a deal to end active shooting at each other and in an attempt to recover as many live hostages or bodies, this is probably about the best that can be done. I suspect every Hamas released from prison will sooner or later get to have a humbling moment with a Mossad agent.
I also suspect Israel has been given a wink and a nod concerning a military response to any other significant provocation.
Should Trump take credit? Yeah, he seems to be the catalyst for the deal.
wrote on 16 Jan 2025, 18:22 last edited by@Jolly said in Does Trump reverse course on the deal he’s so proud of?:
…you're going to see them celebrate victory even in defeat.
But the Israeli right is also lamenting this deal and views it as a loss. Maybe there’s some there there.
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In'm not against Israel and I'm not pro-Palestine.
But too many people died in this war. I wouldn't call them trash. And neither should you.wrote on 16 Jan 2025, 18:41 last edited by@Wim said in Does Trump reverse course on the deal he’s so proud of?:
In'm not against Israel and I'm not pro-Palestine.
But too many people died in this war. I wouldn't call them trash. And neither should you.You kill babies, you murder innocent civilians, you break bones on prisoners for the fun of it, you run rape trains on women until they're torn up inside and blood pools around their body and you let your prisoners die in isolation and tortured captivity... I think terming them trash borders on a compliment.
If I were the Israelis, I'd earmark every Hamas member I could find and I would start to systematically kill them by any means possible, excepting nuclear war. I would kill them, I would kill their families down to the mother, father and siblings. I would do my best to dump their family history into the dustbin of history.
Actually, this current problem is a recurrent Biblical problem of the Israelites disobeying God. When they came into Canaan, God told them to slay everything in the land, even unto the beasts of the field.
They should have done what He told them to do.
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@Wim said in Does Trump reverse course on the deal he’s so proud of?:
In'm not against Israel and I'm not pro-Palestine.
But too many people died in this war. I wouldn't call them trash. And neither should you.You kill babies, you murder innocent civilians, you break bones on prisoners for the fun of it, you run rape trains on women until they're torn up inside and blood pools around their body and you let your prisoners die in isolation and tortured captivity... I think terming them trash borders on a compliment.
If I were the Israelis, I'd earmark every Hamas member I could find and I would start to systematically kill them by any means possible, excepting nuclear war. I would kill them, I would kill their families down to the mother, father and siblings. I would do my best to dump their family history into the dustbin of history.
Actually, this current problem is a recurrent Biblical problem of the Israelites disobeying God. When they came into Canaan, God told them to slay everything in the land, even unto the beasts of the field.
They should have done what He told them to do.
wrote on 16 Jan 2025, 19:26 last edited by RenaudaActually, this current problem is a recurrent Biblical problem of the Israelites disobeying God. When they came into Canaan, God told them to slay everything in the land, even unto the beasts of the field.
They should have done what He told them to do.
Actually, I think there are enough religious nutters and fanatics trying to fuel the continuation of this never ending war without pious foreigners throwing a bourbon bottle filled with heretical Christian fundamentalist gasoline on the fire.
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wrote on 16 Jan 2025, 19:29 last edited by
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wrote on 16 Jan 2025, 21:46 last edited by
I wouldn't be saying that out loud if i were them.
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wrote on 16 Jan 2025, 21:54 last edited by
How instrumental was Trump in the details of this deal?
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wrote on 16 Jan 2025, 22:05 last edited by
By all accounts he’s the reason Bibi felt forced to accept it.
The deal is essentially the same one Biden put together in May and tried again to sell in September.
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wrote on 16 Jan 2025, 22:16 last edited by
No, I mean how much into the weeds of the deal was Trump? I get the pressure, but the conditions?
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wrote on 16 Jan 2025, 22:21 last edited by
His guy was side by side with the other negotiators. One would assume he and Trump and probably Jared were in contact about negotiations.
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wrote on 16 Jan 2025, 22:24 last edited by jon-nyc
@jon-nyc said in Does Trump reverse course on the deal he’s so proud of?:
Is this true? The only Americans in scope are dead?
3 are alive. But it’s unclear whether they’re part of the deal.
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wrote on 17 Jan 2025, 00:16 last edited by
Four of seven.
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wrote on 17 Jan 2025, 02:04 last edited by
I was curious how Ben Shapiro would react, so I listened to him a bit this afternoon. His general takes were:
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yes, it’s a bad deal (you're exchanging hundreds of living killers for a handful of dead toddlers in some cases) BUT any deal with the bastards would be a bad deal by necessity… And
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While it’s a bad deal, he feels there are a few distinctions from Biden’s earlier proposal that made it palatable. The first being the lack of recognition of Hamas to lead the rebuilding and second Israel has better standing for re-engaging if necessary, and with support from the US
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He needs to just sit quiet until Monday.
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Kinda neat how they all had uniforms that fit after months of "starvation" because of Israel. Also kinda neat how they walked out of the hospital wearing those uniforms carrying weapons.
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wrote on 20 Jan 2025, 16:27 last edited by
I counted 17 uniformed terrorists on and around the Red Cross vehicles.
Unfortunately the hatred probably means Hamas numbers/sympathisers are greater than before 7th October.