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  • JollyJ Jolly

    Take away their government subsidies such as housing, food and welfare money, and see where they are at.

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    LuFins Dad
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    #204

    @Jolly said in Bidenomics:

    Take away their government subsidies such as housing, food and welfare money, and see where they are at.

    Actually, only about 10% of the country are on government assistance programs, meaning half of the poor receive nothing. As a percentage of GDP, government handouts are at a pretty low point…

    The Brad

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      #205

      Which means over 30M people would not have housing, enough food or basic necessities?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Probably right around the same number as under Trump’s first term, and a fairly low percentage.

        Sorry, Jolly, you and your pal Bernie should leave the guillotine in the garage for the time being.

        The Brad

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          You can take a four-paintbrush sopping with whitewash, but the essential truth is that many of the poor in the U.S. have what they do because of government programs that do not exist in many other countries.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            You can take a four-paintbrush sopping with whitewash, but the essential truth is that many of the poor in the U.S. have what they do because of government programs that do not exist in many other countries.

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            @Jolly said in Bidenomics:

            ... the essential truth is that many of the poor in the U.S. have what they do because of government programs that do not exist in many other countries.

            Can the same be said of the rich?

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              I fail to see how any of that is going to lead to a populist revolt or the idea that the rich are getting richer at the expense of the poor.

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                @Jolly said in Bidenomics:

                Take away their government subsidies such as housing, food and welfare money, and see where they are at.

                Actually, only about 10% of the country are on government assistance programs, meaning half of the poor receive nothing. As a percentage of GDP, government handouts are at a pretty low point…

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                jon-nyc
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                #210

                @LuFins-Dad Excluding social security and Medicare.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  @Jolly said in Bidenomics:

                  ... the essential truth is that many of the poor in the U.S. have what they do because of government programs that do not exist in many other countries.

                  Can the same be said of the rich?

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                  @Axtremus said in Bidenomics:

                  @Jolly said in Bidenomics:

                  ... the essential truth is that many of the poor in the U.S. have what they do because of government programs that do not exist in many other countries.

                  Can the same be said of the rich?

                  Tax code.

                  The Golden Rule.

                  Them that has the gold, rules.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    jon-nyc
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                    #212

                    Now that the election is over conservatives can finally be honest about the economy, though most will wait until March or so.

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                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      One of the wonderful things about the Internet is that one can find anyone saying anything with increasing ease.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        One of the wonderful things about the Internet is that one can find anyone saying anything with increasing ease.

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                        @Jolly Semi serious/semi joking question.

                        At what point in time do we start measuring how President Trump is doing with the economy?

                        Do we start from election day? Inaugeration day? some other time frame?

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                          @Jolly Semi serious/semi joking question.

                          At what point in time do we start measuring how President Trump is doing with the economy?

                          Do we start from election day? Inaugeration day? some other time frame?

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                          Jolly
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                          @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                          @Jolly Semi serious/semi joking question.

                          At what point in time do we start measuring how President Trump is doing with the economy?

                          Do we start from election day? Inaugeration day? some other time frame?

                          If we use the Jon Scale, it will be from inauguration until the next President assumes office.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                            @Jolly Semi serious/semi joking question.

                            At what point in time do we start measuring how President Trump is doing with the economy?

                            Do we start from election day? Inaugeration day? some other time frame?

                            If we use the Jon Scale, it will be from inauguration until the next President assumes office.

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                            @Jolly said in Bidenomics:

                            it will be from inauguration

                            I know its early, but.................... LOL

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                              jon-nyc
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                              More from Rufo.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                I listened to a presentation last week by a Goldman Sachs analyst about Trump, Trade and Tariffs. One point made that really stood out was that Trump has repeatedly shown in past that he is very sensitive to how the market reacts to any of his policies. When the markets react like bears he tends to adjust his policies and statements to turn the markets into bulls.

                                Jon, your take on that?

                                Elbows up!

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                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                                    I listened to a presentation last week by a Goldman Sachs analyst about Trump, Trade and Tariffs. One point made that really stood out was that Trump has repeatedly shown in past that he is very sensitive to how the market reacts to any of his policies. When the markets react like bears he tends to adjust his policies and statements to turn the markets into bulls.

                                    Jon, your take on that?

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    @Renauda said in Bidenomics:

                                    I listened to a presentation last week by a Goldman Sachs analyst about Trump, Trade and Tariffs. One point made that really stood out was that Trump has repeatedly shown in past that he is very sensitive to how the market reacts to any of his policies. When the markets react like bears he tends to adjust his policies and statements to turn the markets into bulls.

                                    Jon, your take on that?

                                    I would agree with that. He plays to the crowd, thinks of the stock market as his score card (though he’s likely to get to know the bond markets this term), and isnt embarrassed to do a volte face.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      #221

                                      What’s the high water mark for real wages? Not 1971.

                                      2025

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                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        That's a bold arrow. For that graphic artist to be claiming that those numbers are going up. Stunning and brave.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          I hope Trump doesn’t fuck this up but it’s not looking good.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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