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What Trump voters are going to be disappointed about.

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  • L LuFins Dad
    28 Dec 2024, 16:42

    @jon-nyc said in What Trump voters are going to be disappointed about.:

    @Wim said in What Trump voters are going to be disappointed about.:

    As to 1 and 5:
    If Trump can manage to drill/produce more oil and throw it on the international market, Putin's oil revenues wil melt like snow from the sun. War in Uktain will soon be over then.

    A little-discussed fact (except for here) is that our oil production reached its all time high under Biden. Doesn’t mean it can’t get higher, but he wasn’t able to do so in his first term.

    Little discussed? It was discussed all the freaking time. The one factor that everybody kept ignoring in the conversations is that it takes years for new wells to get dug and start producing, and that production increases over time. Also ignored was the fact that oil imports into the US had declined drastically over Trump’s administration, but has raised every year under Biden’s.

    So oil production will go up over the next 4 years as the new wells continue to come online and increase production. The question is how quickly can we get new wells in the ground, and what steps can be taken to get more nuclear plants up and running.

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    Renauda
    wrote on 28 Dec 2024, 18:59 last edited by Renauda
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    @LuFins-Dad

    The one factor that everybody kept ignoring in the conversations is that it takes years for new wells to get dug and start producing, and that production increases over time..

    Not at all in the case of the timeline involved regarding drilling and production and not always or necessarily, with regard to increased production over time.

    Also ignored was the fact that oil imports into the US had declined drastically over Trump’s administration…

    Not from here. Oil exports from Alberta into the US increased substantially throughout the Trump years over the last two years of the Obama Administration when they actually declined, and has since continued to increase annually. The very rationale behind Trump’s policy behind KXL at the time.

    Elbows up!

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      taiwan_girl
      wrote on 3 Jan 2025, 02:02 last edited by
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      It comes to perception. Those who love Trump will say the economy is doing great, regardless of what the actual numbers say. Those who hate Trump will claim the opposite.

      Oil production is a perfect case. Domestic production is 20(?)% higher than at the end of Trump's term, US is a net exporter, yet the complaint is that Biden did not do enough.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 3 Jan 2025, 04:06 last edited by
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        Real people don't read statistics about oil production, they look at the price on the gas pump or what their heating fuel bill is.

        Seems to work as a general barometer.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 3 Jan 2025, 06:21 last edited by
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          That’s why they’ll be so pleased when he keeps his promise and brings gas prices under $2.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 3 Jan 2025, 12:23 last edited by
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            Well, Iran is dumping oil on the world market and I did pay $2.38 this last week.

            Maybe after inauguration, we'll get there.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 3 Jan 2025, 12:34 last edited by Doctor Phibes 1 Mar 2025, 12:34
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              The idea that really low oil prices is a good thing overall is very naive.

              I was only joking

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 3 Jan 2025, 13:03 last edited by
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                I’ll be disappointed when he doesn’t meet the Ambassador from Canada in a bathrobe and slippers.

                The Brad

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                • L LuFins Dad
                  3 Jan 2025, 13:03

                  I’ll be disappointed when he doesn’t meet the Ambassador from Canada in a bathrobe and slippers.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 3 Jan 2025, 13:56 last edited by
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                  @LuFins-Dad LOL.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • L LuFins Dad
                    3 Jan 2025, 13:03

                    I’ll be disappointed when he doesn’t meet the Ambassador from Canada in a bathrobe and slippers.

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 3 Jan 2025, 14:13 last edited by
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                    @LuFins-Dad said in What Trump voters are going to be disappointed about.:

                    I’ll be disappointed when he doesn’t meet the Ambassador from Canada in a bathrobe and slippers.

                    Be careful what you wish for. Florida man might do it wearing nothing but a strategically placed tie.

                    I was only joking

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                    • J Jolly
                      3 Jan 2025, 04:06

                      Real people don't read statistics about oil production, they look at the price on the gas pump or what their heating fuel bill is.

                      Seems to work as a general barometer.

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                      taiwan_girl
                      wrote on 5 Jan 2025, 03:31 last edited by
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                      @Jolly said in What Trump voters are going to be disappointed about.:

                      Real people don't read statistics about oil production, they look at the price on the gas pump or what their heating fuel bill is.

                      So, if gas prices are the same or increase a year from now, detractors of President Trump will say that he is the cause, and those who support him will come up with reasons why the prices rose in spite of his good work.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 5 Jan 2025, 08:02 last edited by
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                        Missed the point, didn't you?

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          taiwan_girl
                          wrote on 5 Jan 2025, 13:30 last edited by
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                          Nope. LOL

                          i know you are going to say I sound like a dead horse, but presidents take too much credit and get too much blame, especially when look at their terms in a "finite" four year period.

                          Who is getting the blame for the 2022/2023 inflation? President Biden. Did President Trump have a significant impact on that? Yes. Does he get the blame? In the thoughts of most Americans, not really.

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