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Ireland's Autogenocide

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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    What's wrong with non-European foreigners gradually replacing Europeans in England? You don't complain about the Europeans replacing the Native American in the Americas or the Europeans replacing the aboriginals in Australia.

    You ask why there is reduced assimilation. Are you sure there really is reduced assimilation? A fair comparison would compare first generation to first generation, take into account lengths of time after immigration. Makes no sense comparing first generations who have immigrated for 20 years to third generations whose families have migrated 80 years ago.

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    • AxtremusA Axtremus

      What's wrong with non-European foreigners gradually replacing Europeans in England? You don't complain about the Europeans replacing the Native American in the Americas or the Europeans replacing the aboriginals in Australia.

      You ask why there is reduced assimilation. Are you sure there really is reduced assimilation? A fair comparison would compare first generation to first generation, take into account lengths of time after immigration. Makes no sense comparing first generations who have immigrated for 20 years to third generations whose families have migrated 80 years ago.

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      @Axtremus said in Ireland's Autogenocide:

      What's wrong with non-European foreigners gradually replacing Europeans in England? You don't complain about the Europeans replacing the Native American in the Americas or the Europeans replacing the aboriginals in Australia.

      You ask why there is reduced assimilation. Are you sure there really is reduced assimilation? A fair comparison would compare first generation to first generation, take into account lengths of time after immigration. Makes no sense comparing first generations who have immigrated for 20 years to third generations whose families have migrated 80 years ago.

      What's wrong with the Europeans conguering East Asia, in particular China and destroying Chinese culture?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        I doubt very much that the Irish will surrender themselves or their ancestral Island home to any migrants let alone Muslim migrants.

        Same goes for the United Kingdom.

        Elbows up!

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        • RenaudaR Renauda

          I doubt very much that the Irish will surrender themselves or their ancestral Island home to any migrants let alone Muslim migrants.

          Same goes for the United Kingdom.

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          @Renauda said in Ireland's Autogenocide:

          I doubt very much that the Irish will surrender themselves or their ancestral Island home to any migrants let alone Muslim migrants.

          Same goes for the United Kingdom.

          While I don't doubt it's a problem, when I actually visit the UK, which I do on a fairly regular basis, it doesn't appear to be nearly as dire a crisis as some American "conservatives" would have us believe.

          Genocide is a funny word to use.

          I was only joking

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            @Doctor-Phibes

            You mean sloppy thinking and gossipy pseudo-conservatives.

            And I agree genocide is strange word to use. A word that is too often used inappropriately as of late.

            Elbows up!

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @Axtremus said in Ireland's Autogenocide:

              What's wrong with non-European foreigners gradually replacing Europeans in England? You don't complain about the Europeans replacing the Native American in the Americas or the Europeans replacing the aboriginals in Australia.

              You ask why there is reduced assimilation. Are you sure there really is reduced assimilation? A fair comparison would compare first generation to first generation, take into account lengths of time after immigration. Makes no sense comparing first generations who have immigrated for 20 years to third generations whose families have migrated 80 years ago.

              What's wrong with the Europeans conguering East Asia, in particular China and destroying Chinese culture?

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              @Jolly said in Ireland's Autogenocide:

              What's wrong with the Europeans conguering East Asia, in particular China and destroying Chinese culture?

              Many parts of East Asia have indeed been conquered by Europeans. Do you think that's wrong?

              Mainland Chinese have adopted many elements of European cultures, including Marxism and socialism, Rock & Roll, Western classical music, Western pop music, Hollywood movies, they write with pens and pencils as opposed to ink brushes, their women prefer diamond engagement rings and white wedding gowns, ... you have a problem with that?

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                Then we shall assimilate them.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  What's wrong with non-European foreigners gradually replacing Europeans in England? You don't complain about the Europeans replacing the Native American in the Americas or the Europeans replacing the aboriginals in Australia.

                  You ask why there is reduced assimilation. Are you sure there really is reduced assimilation? A fair comparison would compare first generation to first generation, take into account lengths of time after immigration. Makes no sense comparing first generations who have immigrated for 20 years to third generations whose families have migrated 80 years ago.

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                  @Axtremus

                  The short answer is that Islam is foul.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                    @Jolly said in Ireland's Autogenocide:

                    What's wrong with the Europeans conguering East Asia, in particular China and destroying Chinese culture?

                    Many parts of East Asia have indeed been conquered by Europeans. Do you think that's wrong?

                    Mainland Chinese have adopted many elements of European cultures, including Marxism and socialism, Rock & Roll, Western classical music, Western pop music, Hollywood movies, they write with pens and pencils as opposed to ink brushes, their women prefer diamond engagement rings and white wedding gowns, ... you have a problem with that?

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                    @Axtremus said in Ireland's Autogenocide:

                    @Jolly said in Ireland's Autogenocide:

                    What's wrong with the Europeans conguering East Asia, in particular China and destroying Chinese culture?

                    Many parts of East Asia have indeed been conquered by Europeans. Do you think that's wrong?

                    Mainland Chinese have adopted many elements of European cultures, including Marxism and socialism, Rock & Roll, Western classical music, Western pop music, Hollywood movies, they write with pens and pencils as opposed to ink brushes, their women prefer diamond engagement rings and white wedding gowns, ... you have a problem with that?

                    Most significantly, Japan while retaining its traditional culture has adopted and embraced Western liberal governance. South Korea and Taiwan are not that far behind the Japanese in adopting the same in while still retaining their own cultural traditions and identity.

                    Elbows up!

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                      Assimilation (or lack of) works on both sides. Go to any Asian country, and if there are a group of foreign expats there, good chance that they will seek out western restaurants, go to western style bars, buy western style groceries, and in many cases, not learn the local language.

                      But, this is somewhat of an unfair compare, becuase most of these people are not true immigrants, but retiring people and not really any chance that they (or their families) will be there for many generations.

                      Also but, in the defense of the expat, no matter how long they live in a foreign country (speaking mainly of Asia), they are never really "part" of the country. They will always be looked at as a foreigner.

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