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Another "50 greatest..." list

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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
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    Surprised that Le Carre’s A Perfect Spy is not on the list. I recall it being every bit as gripping a page turner as any of the Karla trilogy.

    Elbows up!

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    • George KG Offline
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      #10

      Speaking of Le Carre...

      Have you read "The Night Manager?" It was also made into a miniseries with Tom Hiddelston Olivia Colman and Hugh Laurie. Book was good as was the miniseries.

      THey're making another season of the miniseries, though, considering how the book ended, I don't see how.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Yes I read it. I’ve read the whole le carre repertoire.

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        • bachophileB bachophile

          Yes I read it. I’ve read the whole le carre repertoire.

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          George K
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          @bachophile said in Another "50 greatest..." list:

          I’ve read the whole le carre repertoire. oeuvre.

          It's pedantry Sunday.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • bachophileB Offline
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            You are right, repertoire didn’t seem the right word but oeuvre failed me. That would be a good Thursday ny times word for a crossword clue

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              #14

              I read one. (Stieg Larson) during his 15m of fame. Tried a couple others and put them down. Just not my genre.

              Seen some of the movies though.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • George KG George K

                Speaking of Le Carre...

                Have you read "The Night Manager?" It was also made into a miniseries with Tom Hiddelston Olivia Colman and Hugh Laurie. Book was good as was the miniseries.

                THey're making another season of the miniseries, though, considering how the book ended, I don't see how.

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                Renauda
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                #15

                @George-K

                Have you read "The Night Manager?"

                Yes about six years ago. Loved it, couldn’t put it down.

                Wasn’t aware of the miniseries. Will keep an eye out for it.

                Elbows up!

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                • RenaudaR Renauda

                  @George-K

                  Have you read "The Night Manager?"

                  Yes about six years ago. Loved it, couldn’t put it down.

                  Wasn’t aware of the miniseries. Will keep an eye out for it.

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                  George K
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                  @Renauda said in Another "50 greatest..." list:

                  Yes about six years ago. Loved it, couldn’t put it down.

                  Hugh Laurie as Roper - he plays a bad guy SO well.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
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                    I admit, I’ve never read le Carrè. Might have to read a couple.

                    I was going to post a poll about who was the best, Clancy or Fleming, but according to this list it’s easily le Carrè.

                    The Brad

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      Forsyth and Le Carre are equals, IMO. Clancy and Fleming are pulp. Good pulp, but pulp. Fleming's best was "Casino Royale."

                      Le Carre's writing is dense, much in the same style as Mick Herron (Slow Horses) and Alastair Reynolds. His books are not to be skimmed.

                      Speaking of Fleming, my ex's ex wrote a Bond book. It was mediocre.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        Is this the first "Non Le-Carre" Le-Carre book?

                        Kevin Anderson and Brian Herbert's prequels of the Dune universe have been maligned for not being fatithful to the vision of Brian's dad. I enjoyed them, but I'm easy to please in that regard.

                        How are the reviews?

                        And, I suppose I should re-read the Karla books before diving into this one. It's been years and years.

                        Oh, and "Spy Who Came In..."? Sandbaggers has that kind of ending.

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                        Renauda
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                        #19

                        @George-K

                        Oh, and "Spy Who Came In..."? Sandbaggers has that kind of ending..

                        Le Carre wrote a follow up to a The Spy Who Came in from the Cold called A Legacy of Spies published in 2017. Again, a first rate novel in the genre - a real pager turner again. It is essentially a story of the hypocrisy [and stupidity] of progressive liberal political correctness in relation to the stark reality of the Cold War and the spy trade in general. I would recommend a reread of a The Spy Who Came in from Cold to jog the memory and give context to the story line before cracking the spine of Legacy….

                        Elbows up!

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                          Honestly I don’t think anyone on the list comes close to le carre.

                          And the apex is the Karla trilogy.

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                          • bachophileB bachophile

                            Honestly I don’t think anyone on the list comes close to le carre.

                            And the apex is the Karla trilogy.

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                            @bachophile

                            And the apex is the Karla trilogy.

                            Fully agree.

                            Elbows up!

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                              Way back when, an office library had the three Len Deighton books - Berlin Game, XXXX Set, and YYYY Match. I remember really really liking those books being very excited about them and keep wanting to re-read them. Maybe this will give me some motivation.

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                                I liked Berlin Game. Better than Ipcress File.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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