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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
    #27

    I didn’t see it until after. But I kept my post anyway because you didn’t mention the other two guys and also, and more importantly, I thought it was funny.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #28

      Speaking of child endangerment:

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/a-former-pa-judge-involved-in-the-kids-for-cash-scandal-is-granted-clemency-by-president-joe-biden/ar-AA1vLEeI

      A former Pennsylvania judge who was convicted of sending children to jail while receiving millions of dollars in kickbacks from the facility’s operator in the early 2000s was one of the nearly 1,500 people whose sentences were commuted Thursday by President Joe Biden.

      Michael Conahan had been sentenced to 171/2 years in federal prison after being convicted of racketeering conspiracy for his role in the so-called Kids for Cash scandal in Luzerne County. Conahan pulled funding from a county-owned juvenile detention center there and agreed to send juveniles to a for-profit facility in exchange for payments, a scheme that netted him and fellow jurist Mark Ciavarella nearly $3 million.

      Conahan, who was convicted in 2011, had been serving his sentence in a Florida facility and was set to be released in 2026. But he was placed in home confinement in 2020 because of the pandemic.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #29

        So, thus far we have some Chinese child porn watchers exchanged for US spies, the half-brother of a Hamas biggie, a crooked judge who make millions exploiting children, and a banker from Dixon (Reagan's home town, btw) who bilked her town of millions.

        Now we have the doctor who diluted chemotherapy meds and billed full rate.

        https://themississippilink.com/news/cancer-center-fraud-doctor-sentenced-to-20-years-repay-8-2m/

        A federal judge on Friday sentenced a doctor to 20 years in prison and ordered her to repay nearly $8.2 million for fraud at a former Mississippi cancer center she ran. U.S. District Judge Daniel P. Jordan III said he was “appalled” at how Dr. Meera Sachdeva treated patients at a vulnerable time of their lives.

        Syringes were re-used and different patients' chemotherapy drugs were drawn from the same bag at Rose Cancer Center in the small town of Summit, Jordan said. He said prosecutors were unable to prove drugs were watered down, as they originally believed.

        “It's a very small thing to send this woman to jail for the next 20 years when you compare it to the damage she has done,” Jordan said from the bench.

        And a fentanyl dealer.

        Daniel J. Fillerup, age 33, of Albany, was sentenced today to 120 months in prison for selling fentanyl that caused a woman’s death.

        The announcement was made by United States Attorney Grant C. Jaquith and James N. Hendricks, Special Agent in Charge of the Albany Field Office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).

        Fentanyl...pfft. Gimme carfentanil.

        Investigators said Ken Hechtman and his wife Wendy invented and cooked the drug. They also developed a sophisticated marketing system with a sales team of about 40 people.

        "It just popped up here like a light switch. Overnight, all of a sudden it was here," said an Omaha police detective.

        There are many more of like stories.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          Doctor Phibes
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          #30

          They should do away with Presidential pardons. They're ridiculous, in the same way that the British honours system is ridiculous, except with the Brits they don't let a bunch of criminals out of gaol, they just give them medals.

          I was only joking

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            They should do away with Presidential pardons. They're ridiculous, in the same way that the British honours system is ridiculous, except with the Brits they don't let a bunch of criminals out of gaol, they just give them medals.

            George KG Offline
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            George K
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            #31

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Mr. Clemency:

            They should do away with Presidential pardons.

            It's as hard-baked into the Constitution as birth-right citizenship - probably even more so. It'll never go away.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #32

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                Hamas dude...

                AxtremusA Offline
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                #33

                @George-K said in Mr. Clemency:

                Hamas dude...

                Is that guy a Hamas dude himself or does he just have a brother who is a Hamas dude?

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  @George-K said in Mr. Clemency:

                  Hamas dude...

                  Is that guy a Hamas dude himself or does he just have a brother who is a Hamas dude?

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #34

                  @Axtremus said in Mr. Clemency:

                  Is that guy a Hamas dude himself or does he just have a brother who is a Hamas dude?

                  It's his half-brother, iirc. I'm sure that he had no association with the organization, right? RIGHT????

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @Axtremus said in Mr. Clemency:

                    Is that guy a Hamas dude himself or does he just have a brother who is a Hamas dude?

                    It's his half-brother, iirc. I'm sure that he had no association with the organization, right? RIGHT????

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                    George K
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                    @George-K said in Mr. Clemency:

                    It's his half-brother, iirc. I'm sure that he had no association with the organization, right? RIGHT????

                    Wrong:

                    https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-833310

                    Mashaal was sentenced for 20 years on charges of financing Hamas through the Holy Land Foundation. According to Israeli media, he has been released after serving 16 years, and will spend one year in a rehabilitation facility.

                    Allegedly, the shortening of Mashaal's term comes alongside the shortening of four other American-Palestinians, including Muhammad al-Zain, a relative of Hamas Deputy Chairman Musa Abu Marzouk. The US court ruling, Arab media stated, means that the sentences will be shorter by "dozens of years."

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Mik
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                      #36

                      Klobuchar is throwing Joe under the bus on this - Face The Nation.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • HoraceH Offline
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                        Horace
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                        #37

                        The pardon of Hunter is polling very badly, last I heard.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #38

                          All of it is. She dumped on the Hunter pardon too.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • HoraceH Offline
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                            Horace
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #39

                            I wonder why prisoner swaps advantageous to the US, as per the pardon documents, are left to the last days of a last presidential term.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • jon-nycJ Offline
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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #40

                              He’s got over a month left. He could get a few thousand more pardons in easily.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                He’s got over a month left. He could get a few thousand more pardons in easily.

                                HoraceH Offline
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                                Horace
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #41

                                @jon-nyc said in Mr. Clemency:

                                He’s got over a month left. He could get a few thousand more pardons in easily.

                                In theory, he could pardon everybody on the planet in perpetuity.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #42

                                  There are two takes to the reactions to clemency, afaict.

                                  1. POTATUS just doesn't give a flying fuck what people think of him. He's at the end of his career, and he will fade off into the sunset with no influence.

                                  2. The Democrats who realize that POTATUS is at the end of his career, and they owe him nothing any more and he can't hurt them. Finally speaking what they've been thinking.

                                  He could get a few thousand more pardons in easily.

                                  And considering #1 and #2 above, he probably will.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on last edited by
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                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
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                                      @Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:

                                      https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/biden-commutes-roughly-1500-sentences-pardons-39-people-116713842

                                      https://freebeacon.com/biden-harris-administration/black-widow-who-murdered-3-ex-lovers-freed-in-bidens-historic-clemency-spree/

                                      A Maryland woman dubbed the "Black Widow" for murdering two husbands and a boyfriend for insurance money is now free after President Joe Biden commuted her 40-year prison sentence, undercutting the White House's claim that Biden released only "non-violent" offenders in a clemency bonanza last week.

                                      Among the 1,500 federal convicts granted clemency was Josephine Virginia Gray, who was sentenced to 40 years in prison in 2002 for insurance fraud schemes connected to the murders of three men between 1974 and 1996. Gray was resentenced to the same amount of time again in 2006 following a series of appeals.

                                      The COVID-19 pandemic allowed Gray—and the rest of Biden's clemency recipients—to serve out their sentences in home confinement. Now, Biden has freed Gray altogether in what the White House called the "largest single-day grant of clemency in modern history." Biden, in order to correct historical "injustices," granted clemency to those "convicted of non-violent crimes who were sentenced under outdated laws, policies, and practices that left them with longer sentences than if the individuals were sentenced today," the White House said.

                                      But Gray’s body count "puts the lie to [Biden’s claim that] these are non-violent offenders," according to a former federal prosecutor who handled her case.

                                      "It pisses me off, as you can imagine," James Trusty, who prosecuted Gray as assistant U.S. attorney in Greenbelt, Md., told the Washington Free Beacon.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        It’s true they didn’t review the individual cases when they decided to grant clemency to all the folks on home confinement and that was disastrous in certain cases. To me the most notorious is the Pennsylvania judge who sent kids to private prisons for money.

                                        But I’m not going to call them out for lying about only releasing non-violent offenders. This woman was only convicted of insurance fraud after all. It would be interesting to know why they didn’t charge or didn’t win the murder charges.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          Jolly
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                                          #46

                                          Does anybody think Biden is actually reviewing any of these cases?

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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