Did Lockdown Work?
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@taiwan_girl said in Did Lockdown Work?:
@Jolly said in Did Lockdown Work?:
Now, as for COVID response...In California, one of the most liberal states in the union, 60% of people have told COVID tracers to piss up a rope.
Americans, even for their own good, do not like to be told what to do.
Exactly. Sometimes, the good of society has to come before the good of the individual.
Personally, I have a lot of trouble understanding why people cannot understand that.
I don't. But then, I'm one of those pesky Americans...
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@Rainman said in Did Lockdown Work?:
It's been going on for decades, and it all started in academics. Critical Theory, Social Justice, Intersectionalism, hiding under "Critical Thinking Skills" and similar.
Many of us adults lived through the beginnings of the movement, I guess we never expected so much to turn into societal destruction, it seemed that the nutty stuff would obviously die under its subjective "truth" -- but didn't.
John McWhorter discussed this on a podcast released today called The Weeds. He too witnessed Critical Theory invent new usages for phrases such as White Supremacy, in what, at the time, was a secluded little space in academia. He remarked that you could draw a line from there to our current pop cultural acceptance of those ideas. So if anybody thinks those pseudo intellectuals dominating the -studies disciplines in our universities are a harmless bunch of quacks, realize their ideas have become ground truth for a large part of our culture.
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Upon reflection, I regret my anti-Congress rant, above. It was facile, cheap, oversimplified, overly self indulgent and in large part, probably wrong.
The truth is, Congresspeople probably do work very hard. The further truth is that the great majority of the work of governance is subterranean, the part of the iceberg you don't see. It's not unheard of that a Congressional committee will work weeks and months to effect a small change in some unknown (to us) sub-agency that results in great benefit to the people, and we the people never see the process.
Yes, government is way too big, probably too big for any oversight body to govern effectively. There's nobody to fix this, so we have no choice but to live with it. Hence, the dozens of committees on Capitol Hill. (And probably the dozens of liquor empties in the dumpsters behind the Senate and House office buildings every night.)
Yes, Congresspeople are scoundrelly in many ways -- scoundrelly and stupid and dishonest, power mad and egoistic, and often useless. But I was wrong to describe them as do-nothing layabouts.
The one thing I can't forgive, though, is their contributing to the political divisiveness that is so severely crippling the country. Instead of endeavoring to unite and heal, they are way too invested in pouring gasoline on the flames.
For that, a pox on both Houses.
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@Jolly said in Did Lockdown Work?:
@taiwan_girl said in Did Lockdown Work?:
@Jolly said in Did Lockdown Work?:
Now, as for COVID response...In California, one of the most liberal states in the union, 60% of people have told COVID tracers to piss up a rope.
Americans, even for their own good, do not like to be told what to do.
Exactly. Sometimes, the good of society has to come before the good of the individual.
Personally, I have a lot of trouble understanding why people cannot understand that.
I don't. But then, I'm one of those pesky Americans...
And that is what makes the US so great, but can also be why sometimes that it fails.
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@taiwan_girl said in Did Lockdown Work?:
@Jolly said in Did Lockdown Work?:
@taiwan_girl said in Did Lockdown Work?:
@Jolly said in Did Lockdown Work?:
Now, as for COVID response...In California, one of the most liberal states in the union, 60% of people have told COVID tracers to piss up a rope.
Americans, even for their own good, do not like to be told what to do.
Exactly. Sometimes, the good of society has to come before the good of the individual.
Personally, I have a lot of trouble understanding why people cannot understand that.
I don't. But then, I'm one of those pesky Americans...
And that is what makes the US so great, but can also be why sometimes that it fails.
Absolutely. Now, there is a problem with the concept of duty in today's American society, but that, too, is a personal thing...
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@George-K said in Did Lockdown Work?:
I find no clear association between lockdown policies and mortality development.
Total hospitalizations and deaths caused by covid in Virginia this year for people under age 20.
Zero
It worked for that age group.
So far
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@Jolly said in Did Lockdown Work?:
@taiwan_girl said in Did Lockdown Work?:
@Jolly said in Did Lockdown Work?:
@taiwan_girl said in Did Lockdown Work?:
@Jolly said in Did Lockdown Work?:
Now, as for COVID response...In California, one of the most liberal states in the union, 60% of people have told COVID tracers to piss up a rope.
Americans, even for their own good, do not like to be told what to do.
Exactly. Sometimes, the good of society has to come before the good of the individual.
Personally, I have a lot of trouble understanding why people cannot understand that.
I don't. But then, I'm one of those pesky Americans...
And that is what makes the US so great, but can also be why sometimes that it fails.
Absolutely. Now, there is a problem with the concept of duty in today's American society, but that, too, is a personal thing...
I asked my grandfather, who was in his early 30's when WWII broke out, about the the nation unified as never before in the war effort. Like a lot of men in the depression he had bounced around taking work here and there as he was able. Once the war ramped up he had found work in an Aluminum plant in Southern California.
He snorted derisively and said something derogatory about America that I didn't understand, other than knowing he felt there was plenty of selfishness still going on that he witnessed.