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Fuel economy for thee, not for me...

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #7

    Could just deliver on a Postie...

    https://www.hondashop.com.au/product/bikes-for-work/honda-c110x-postie/

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      In some cases, perhaps. But some routes are several miles long, with many, many stops.

      taiwan_girlT Offline
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      taiwan_girl
      wrote on last edited by
      #8

      @Jolly said in Fuel economy for thee, not for me...:

      In some cases, perhaps. But some routes are several miles long, with many, many stops.

      Agree. I know rural routes can be quite long. Not every vehicle would have to be electric, but I would think that at least 75% of the routes would be 100 US miles or less (or for sure less than 200 US miles or less).

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      • CopperC Offline
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        Copper
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        #9

        https://electrek.co/2022/03/25/usps-doubles-order-electric-vehicles-but-buying-inefficient-gas-trucks/

        USPS doubles its order of electric vehicles but sticks to mostly buying inefficient gas trucks

        The United States Postal Service (USPS) announced that it updated its plan to upgrade its fleet of delivery vehicles to double the number of electric vehicles as part of the order.

        However, the USPS decided to unfortunately still mostly buy inefficient gas trucks as part of the 50,000-vehicle fleet refresh.

        Last year, the USPS placed an order for 50,000 vehicles with Oshkosh Defense as part of its Next Generation Delivery Vehicle (NGDV) program to update its aging fleet of delivery vehicles.

        The postal service has been expected to update its fleet with electric vehicles, which would greatly improve the efficiency of its fleet and reduce operating costs.

        However, Louis DeJoy, the US postmaster appointed by the Trump administration, announced that only 10% of the new 50,000 vehicles as part of the NGDV contract would be electric.

        Unfortunate, but fiscally responsible

        https://about.usps.com/newsroom/national-releases/2022/0324-usps-places-order-for-next-gen-delivery-vehicles-to-be-electric.htm

        USPS Places Order for 50,000 Next Generation Delivery Vehicles; 10,019 To Be Electric

        The Next Generation Delivery Vehicle (NGDV) program offers significant benefits through the introduction of safer and more environmentally friendly vehicles for our carriers and the communities we serve

        Postal Service makes good on our pledge to accelerate our electric vehicle strategy by increasing the quantity of battery electric vehicles (BEVs) as our financial condition improves and as we refine our network and vehicle operating strategy

        Postal Service has identified 10,019 specific delivery routes that present the best initial application for electric vehicles

        The flexibility in the NGDV program allows for future increases in the mix of BEVs should additional funding become available from internal or other sources, and if the use case for BEVs continues to improve

        Through the NGDV program, Postal Service commitment to the fiscally responsible roll-out of electric-powered vehicles for America’s largest and oldest federal fleet remains ambitious and on schedule

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        • LarryL Offline
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          Larry
          wrote on last edited by Larry
          #10

          I used to own a trucking company, and still have friends who are midlevel wheels in the big chain truck stop business. For what this is worth, here's what they're telling me...

          Truck parts are becoming hard to get. Tractor trailers needs constant maintenance and repair, partly because they must pass DOT inspections at the drop of a hat. DOT will even pull one over on the side is the highway and do an inspection. Plus, sometimes they just break. If a tractor needs an engine part, it is off the road until that part is replaced. It used to be that you could get most any part within hours, often repaired where it sits on the side of the road. Today, many parts can take 2 or 3 weeks, some could take months.

          Fuel: there is a looming diesel shortage that could begin in a matter of weeks. Right now diesel fuel is available, but priced around 5.50 to 6 bucks a gallon. Many truckers can't afford to pay 2,000 or 3,000 to fill up their truck. But prices are expected to rise close to if not 10 bucks a gallon very soon, with the possibility being extremely high that diesel fuel will be rationed. This will even affect gas prices, because all the gas in the ground at gas stations get there on trucks that run on diesel.

          When you begin to hear noises of diesel rationing get ready..... stores will be out of almost everything, gas prices will shoot through the roof, there will be shortages of just about everything.

          Let's go Brandon!!

          You asked for it, you got it.... Toyota!!!

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #11

            Well, reckon I ought to go get 15 gallons of off-road, if things are gonna get that sporty...

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Well, reckon I ought to go get 15 gallons of off-road, if things are gonna get that sporty...

              LarryL Offline
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              Larry
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              #12

              @Jolly said in Fuel economy for thee, not for me...:

              Well, reckon I ought to go get 15 gallons of off-road, if things are gonna get that sporty...

              I'd get more than 15 I I were you.......

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #13

                $5.10 for off-road.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #14

                  https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-12-06/exclusive-trump-may-cancel-us-postal-service-electric-mail-truck-contract-sources-say

                  Donald Trump's transition team is considering canceling the U.S. Postal Service's contracts to electrify its delivery fleet, as part of a broader suite of executive orders targeting electric vehicles, according to three sources familiar with the plans.

                  The move, which could be unveiled in the early days of Trump’s administration that begins on Jan. 20, is in line with Trump's campaign promises to roll back President Joe Biden’s efforts to decarbonize U.S. transportation to fight climate change – an agenda Trump has said is unnecessary and potentially damaging to the economy.

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #15

                    Well, with all the charging stations the Biden administration has established, I think this is short-sighted.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #16

                      Guessing they weren’t Tesla builds.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • George KG George K

                        Well, with all the charging stations the Biden administration has established, I think this is short-sighted.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #17

                        @George-K said in Fuel economy for thee, not for me...:

                        Well, with all the charging stations the Biden administration has established, I think this is short-sighted.

                        I see what you did there... 😂

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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