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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #25

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      Who is Abu Mohammed al-Golani


      Abu Mohammed al-Golani, the militant leader whose stunning insurgency toppled Syria’s President Bashar Assad, has spent years working to remake his public image, renouncing longtime ties to al-Qaida and depicting himself as a champion of pluralism and tolerance. As he entered Damascus behind his victorious fighters Sunday, he even dropped his nom de guerre and referred to himself with his real name, Ahmad al-Sharaa.

      The extent of that transformation from jihadi extremist to would-be state builder is now put to the test.

      Insurgents control Damascus, Assad has fled into hiding, and for the first time after 50 years of his family’s iron hand, it is an open question how Syria will be governed.

      Syria is home to multiple ethnic and religious communities, often pitted against each other by Assad’s state and years of war. Many of them fear the possibility that Sunni Islamist extremists will take over. The country is also fragmented among disparate armed factions, and foreign powers from Russia and Iran to the United States, Turkey and Israel all have their hands in the mix.

      Hours after Damascus’ capture, the 42-year-old al-Sharaa made his first appearance in the city’s landmark Umayyad Mosque, declaring Assad’s fall “a victory for the Islamic nation.” A senior rebel commander, Anas Salkhadi, appeared on state TV to declare, “Our message to all the sects of Syria, is that we tell them that Syria is for everyone,”

      Al-Sharaa, who has been labeled a terrorist by the United States, and his insurgent force, Hayat Tahrir al-Sham, or HTS – many of whose fighters are jihadis -- now stand to be a major player.

      For years, al-Sharaa worked to consolidate power, while bottled up in the province of Idlib in Syria’s northwest corner as Assad’s Iranian- and Russian-backed rule over much of the country appeared solid.

      He maneuvered among extremist organizations while eliminating competitors and former allies. He sought to polish the image of his de-facto “salvation government” that has been running Idlib to win over international governments and reassure Syria’s religious and ethnic minorities. And he built ties with various tribes and other groups.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        After today, the only Iranian proxies left standing are the Houthis and the Ivy League.

        bachophileB Offline
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        @jon-nyc said in If Assad falls....:

        After today, the only Iranian proxies left standing are the Houthis and the Ivy League.

        Lol

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        • Tom-KT Offline
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          Jihadis are like bacon.

          The only thing better than bacon is more bacon and the only thing worse than Jihadis are more Jihadis. And I think that's what we may have here.

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          • MikM Away
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            Mik
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            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/khamenei-loses-everything/ar-AA1vunNr

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Away
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              Mik
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              #30

              Aha! I KNEW we were up to our necks in this. Good move and kudos to the Biden admin.

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-pounds-isis-camps-in-syria-after-assad-flees/ar-AA1vuk5m

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                jon-nyc
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                #31

                @Mik

                and A-10 close-air support attack aircraft "to ensure that ISIS does not seek to take advantage of the current situation to reconstitute in central Syria,"

                You know those guys had the most fun.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • MikM Away
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                  Mik
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                  I still can't believe they want to retire the Warthog.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/khamenei-loses-everything/ar-AA1vunNr

                    taiwan_girlT Offline
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                    @Mik said in If Assad falls....:

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/khamenei-loses-everything/ar-AA1vunNr

                    Interesting article.

                    To play "what if" - if we hadn't supported Ukraine as much as we did, would President Putin been able to direct more weapons/aid to Syria, which could have kept Assad in power, which could have helped Hezbollah, ..................

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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      jon-nyc
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                      #34

                      That’s a factor, as is Israel keeping Iran busy.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        Sinwar wanted to change the Middle East on oct 7, and he did, only in exactly the opposite way he had planned.

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
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                          So this new "boss," supposedly has renounced Al-Queda.

                          THere's a not-too-small part of me that is skeptical.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • MikM Away
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                            Mik
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                            A battle plan is only good until the battle starts.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • George KG George K

                              So this new "boss," supposedly has renounced Al-Queda.

                              THere's a not-too-small part of me that is skeptical.

                              MikM Away
                              MikM Away
                              Mik
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                              #38

                              @George-K said in If Assad falls....:

                              So this new "boss," supposedly has renounced Al-Queda.

                              THere's a not-too-small part of me that is skeptical.

                              I'd do that too until I consolidated power. Worked for the Taliban.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                jon-nyc
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                                I think he also retweeted one of his commander’s tweets about killing all Yazidi men and turning their women into sex slaves.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  The timing of this is just right for Trump to be able to screw the Kurds again.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    @George-K said in If Assad falls....:

                                    So this new "boss," supposedly has renounced Al-Queda.

                                    THere's a not-too-small part of me that is skeptical.

                                    I'd do that too until I consolidated power. Worked for the Taliban.

                                    RenaudaR Offline
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                                    Renauda
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                                    @Mik said in If Assad falls....:

                                    @George-K said in If Assad falls....:

                                    So this new "boss," supposedly has renounced Al-Queda.

                                    THere's a not-too-small part of me that is skeptical.

                                    I'd do that too until I consolidated power. Worked for the Taliban.

                                    If he can consolidate power. A big if. From what I have garnered the past few days is that there are a lot of bosses and factions among the rebel rabble. Many are quite out there in their militancy and fanaticism. He will have to be sufficiently aggressive and charismatic to remain in the forefront.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • MikM Away
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                                      Mik
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                                      #42

                                      Afghanistan II. Swell.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        Afghanistan II. Swell.

                                        RenaudaR Offline
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                                        Renauda
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                                        @Mik

                                        Probably more like Iraq or, at best, Lebanon.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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                                          @jon-nyc said in If Assad falls....:

                                          The Kremlin said on Monday Russia has granted political asylum to overthrown Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, a decision it said was taken by President Vladimir Putin.

                                          Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov declined to comment on Assad's specific whereabouts and said Putin was not planning to meet with him.

                                          Not surprising at all. The amount of countries he could have go to is quite small.

                                          https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/syria-assad-aftermath-monday-1.7404999

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