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F you, Joe Biden

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    Nah, tell us how you really feel ...

    Link to video

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      jon-nyc
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      My words from next door when someone spoke approvingly of Biden’s explanation:

      I disagree.

      1. It's true that few people are ever prosecuted for the gun charge on its own, but Hunter actually copped to the crime in a book he published for personal financial gain. THat's the kind of thing the DoJ would look into. If he hadn't included that detail in his book, I'd agree.

      2. It's true that most people who don't pay their taxes but eventually pay them with interest and penalties are not prosecuted, but the ones they actually do prosecute tend to be high-profile people, in order to send a message to the broader public. He was just such a person so it wasn't out of the ordinary for them to go after him on that one. I do think if there was a more tightly negotiated plea deal it would have been accepted by the court. But the ambiguity in the actual plea deal, which was probably the result of aggressive representation protecting him from other potential charges, ultimately tanked it.

      3. If his (President Biden's) real concern was what he said it was, i.e. future charges by a politicized DoJ (a very real concern, btw), he could have pardoned him for any potential crimes from 2014-2024 EXCEPT the two he had been charged with. That way he would have kept his promise, while also protecting his son from Trumpian lawfare.

      My view has long been that Biden was always going to pardon him if it were necessary to keep him out of prison. As a father I don't blame him at all, I would absolutely do the same thing.

      I just wish he had been honest and said 'I'm doing this because he's my only surviving child, he's vulnerable, and because I can' and not thrown his own DoJ under the bus.

      Having said all that, I agree with his points about political pressure changing the outcome of his plea deal.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        I’ve been listening to Megyn Kelly a bit lately and am impressed. She might be the elusive adult in the room.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • MikM Away
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          I like her on a couple levels.

          Prosecutions of Trump and Hunter have all had a political component. The difference in my mind is Hunter put his own transgressions out there both through his book and his obvious influence peddling. With Trump they started with a blank slate and went looking for something, anything to charge him with.

          The lawfare bell has been rung and will be very difficult to stop or even contain. My hope is Trump rises above it and spends his capital solving problems rather than perpetuating them. Someone has to.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            I like her on a couple levels.

            Prosecutions of Trump and Hunter have all had a political component. The difference in my mind is Hunter put his own transgressions out there both through his book and his obvious influence peddling. With Trump they started with a blank slate and went looking for something, anything to charge him with.

            The lawfare bell has been rung and will be very difficult to stop or even contain. My hope is Trump rises above it and spends his capital solving problems rather than perpetuating them. Someone has to.

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            Horace
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            @Mik said in F you, Joe Biden:

            I like her on a couple levels.

            She’s pretty, but she’s no Jill Biden.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • MikM Mik

              I like her on a couple levels.

              Prosecutions of Trump and Hunter have all had a political component. The difference in my mind is Hunter put his own transgressions out there both through his book and his obvious influence peddling. With Trump they started with a blank slate and went looking for something, anything to charge him with.

              The lawfare bell has been rung and will be very difficult to stop or even contain. My hope is Trump rises above it and spends his capital solving problems rather than perpetuating them. Someone has to.

              jon-nycJ Online
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              jon-nyc
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              @Mik said in F you, Joe Biden:

              I like her on a couple levels.

              Prosecutions of Trump and Hunter have all had a political component. The difference in my mind is Hunter put his own transgressions out there both through his book and his obvious influence peddling. With Trump they started with a blank slate and went looking for something, anything to charge him with.

              True only in NY. The federal crimes were there for all to see as was the Georgia stuff. To not prosecute him would have been the more political act.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                NYC was Bragg-adocio. Georgia was a stretch. The records charges were stupid and should have been litigated in civil court. The raid on his home was beyond stupid. The Jan 6th stuff was a created myth.

                The appointment of Jack Shit as a Special Prosecutor was both illegal and an ill-advised pick.

                Most of this helped contribute to Jon being able to look at Trump on January 21, 2025 and use the term "President Trump" for the next four years! 😜😜

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  jon-nyc
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                  If President Obama had called the mayor of Philadelphia and threatened him if he didn’t find 11,000 votes I somehow imagine you thinking differently about that.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    Jolly
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                    Obama wouldn't have to make that call. The Philly precinct captains would make the count, check their sheets and then manufacture however many votes needed.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      Obama wouldn't have to make that call. The Philly precinct captains would make the count, check their sheets and then manufacture however many votes needed.

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                      @Jolly said in F you, Joe Biden:

                      Obama wouldn't have to make that call. The Philly precinct captains would make the count, check their sheets and then manufacture however many votes needed.

                      By the way, is California still counting votes?

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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