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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #2

      image.jpg

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
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        #3

        Uhm, that’s a basic point of illegal border gcrossings. If they have crossed the border illegally, then they have broken the law.

        The Brad

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        • MikM Offline
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          Too little too late.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
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            #5

            Nope. A change of heart is welcome today, tomorrow, or next week.

            You’d rather her refuse to cooperate with ICE?

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • HoraceH Offline
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              #6

              I mean, that would be hilarious, and further galvanize the country against the cosplaying leftist infants. The law is going to be enforced however the Trump administration wants to enforce it, and cosplay resistance only works to MAGA's favor.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • HoraceH Horace

                I mean, that would be hilarious, and further galvanize the country against the cosplaying leftist infants. The law is going to be enforced however the Trump administration wants to enforce it, and cosplay resistance only works to MAGA's favor.

                jon-nycJ Offline
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                jon-nyc
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                #7

                @Horace said in Hochul speaks:

                The law is going to be enforced however the Trump administration wants to enforce it...

                Not necessarily. Arrests are mostly made by state and local governments. They can choose to check the perp’s legal status, or not. And they can share it with ICE, or not. We already saw that in 2017-19.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @Horace said in Hochul speaks:

                  The law is going to be enforced however the Trump administration wants to enforce it...

                  Not necessarily. Arrests are mostly made by state and local governments. They can choose to check the perp’s legal status, or not. And they can share it with ICE, or not. We already saw that in 2017-19.

                  JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
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                  @jon-nyc said in Hochul speaks:

                  @Horace said in Hochul speaks:

                  The law is going to be enforced however the Trump administration wants to enforce it...

                  Not necessarily. Arrests are mostly made by state and local governments. They can choose to check the perp’s legal status, or not. And they can share it with ICE, or not. We already saw that in 2017-19.

                  I don't think Trump is going to be quite so hamstrung this time. I think they're a bit more savvy in what they can and cannot do.

                  Yes, there are some folks out there like the idiot in Denver, but I don't think sanctuary is the political plus it once was.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • George KG George K

                    JollyJ Offline
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                    @George-K said in Hochul speaks:

                    IOW, we need money.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
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                      What happened? Canada said no thanks to a new province?

                      The Brad

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                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                        #11

                        That wasn’t the governor. It was a state senator I’d never heard of who said that.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Nope. A change of heart is welcome today, tomorrow, or next week.

                          You’d rather her refuse to cooperate with ICE?

                          George KG Offline
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                          George K
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                          @jon-nyc said in Hochul speaks:

                          You’d rather her refuse to cooperate with ICE?

                          The Mayor of Denver is saying he will refuse and is willing to go to jail. My understanding is that this is a felony.

                          Homan says he''ll be glad to oblige.

                          I think Hochul might understand that Homan's serious. It would just take one subpoena.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            jon-nyc
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                            #13

                            There’s no law requiring local police to share immigration status with the feds.

                            Were you guys asleep 8 years ago?

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              There’s no law requiring local police to share immigration status with the feds.

                              Were you guys asleep 8 years ago?

                              George KG Offline
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                              George K
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                              @jon-nyc said in Hochul speaks:

                              There’s no law requiring local police to share immigration status with the feds.

                              I didn't say anything about cooperation, though your comment suggested it.

                              Rather, Mayor Johnston (no, not Johnson) said he will interfere. There's a difference.

                              https://denverite.com/2024/11/20/denver-immigration-policies-donald-trump/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=denverite&utm_campaign=denverite20241120

                              The mayor also takes heart that the people of Denver — not just the administration — would likely resist a mass deportation effort from federal forces.

                              “More than us having DPD stationed at the county line to keep them out, you would have 50,000 Denverites there,” Johnston said. “It’s like the Tiananmen Square moment with the rose and the gun, right? You’d have every one of those Highland moms who came out for the migrants. And you do not want to mess with them.”

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                There’s no law requiring local police to share immigration status with the feds.

                                Were you guys asleep 8 years ago?

                                JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
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                                #15

                                @jon-nyc said in Hochul speaks:

                                There’s no law requiring local police to share immigration status with the feds.

                                Were you guys asleep 8 years ago?

                                They do not have to share immigration status. But they cannot hinder federal officers in the performance of their duties.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  True that.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @jon-nyc said in Hochul speaks:

                                    There’s no law requiring local police to share immigration status with the feds.

                                    I didn't say anything about cooperation, though your comment suggested it.

                                    Rather, Mayor Johnston (no, not Johnson) said he will interfere. There's a difference.

                                    https://denverite.com/2024/11/20/denver-immigration-policies-donald-trump/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=denverite&utm_campaign=denverite20241120

                                    The mayor also takes heart that the people of Denver — not just the administration — would likely resist a mass deportation effort from federal forces.

                                    “More than us having DPD stationed at the county line to keep them out, you would have 50,000 Denverites there,” Johnston said. “It’s like the Tiananmen Square moment with the rose and the gun, right? You’d have every one of those Highland moms who came out for the migrants. And you do not want to mess with them.”

                                    HoraceH Offline
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                                    Horace
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                                    #17

                                    @George-K said in Hochul speaks:

                                    @jon-nyc said in Hochul speaks:

                                    There’s no law requiring local police to share immigration status with the feds.

                                    I didn't say anything about cooperation, though your comment suggested it.

                                    Rather, Mayor Johnston (no, not Johnson) said he will interfere. There's a difference.

                                    https://denverite.com/2024/11/20/denver-immigration-policies-donald-trump/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=denverite&utm_campaign=denverite20241120

                                    The mayor also takes heart that the people of Denver — not just the administration — would likely resist a mass deportation effort from federal forces.

                                    “More than us having DPD stationed at the county line to keep them out, you would have 50,000 Denverites there,” Johnston said. “It’s like the Tiananmen Square moment with the rose and the gun, right? You’d have every one of those Highland moms who came out for the migrants. And you do not want to mess with them.”

                                    He looks like he'll do fine in prison.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • MikM Offline
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                                      He’s got a purty mouth.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • George KG Offline
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                                        George K
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                                        Remember how law enforcement didn't cooperate with federal laws?

                                        I'm old enough to remember that.
                                        image.jpeg

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          #20

                                          That’s obvious bluster.

                                          The real question is to what extent states and major cities will cooperate with the feds. I’m happy to see this attitude from Kochul.

                                          I would expect to see some level of cooperation from Adams, for three reasons. He has really felt the burden of too many immigrants, he has political cover from Kochul, and he has another very strong reason to stay in Trump’s good graces. And then there’s the whole ex-cop thing too.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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