Matt Yglesias on the way forward for Dems

[Aqua Letifer]

Great list. They'll never do it.

[Horace]

I like Matt. Too bad his Substack is a hundred bucks a year. Anyway, good aspirations. But he often has good common sense advice for the left that activates their disgust reflex, and that list would be no different. The virtue puritans will still wield some veto power.

[LuFins Dad]

Very worthy list. Not workable in the party of the crazy cat ladies.

[George K]

Prioritize American citizens' interest?

I did Nazi that one coming.

[Mik]

It was bund to happen.

[Horace]

Someone posted it to Ezra Klein's reddit forum. Early returns are mixed.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ezraklein/comments/1gm0y8a/what_do_you_think_of_yglesias_nine_principles_for/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

I saw this posted online and assumed it was someone’s maga adjacent uncle who posted this. Absolute garbage nonsense. Only makes sense from the POV that negative engagement drives clicks to his substack.

earnestly referring to "normal people" and contrasting them with those who "engage in antisocial conduct" makes me think he's ready to jump right on the JD Vance train. that is deeply ominous.

So a centrist message to win an election? We just got trounced running a centrist candidate coming from a centrist regime that managed to alienate both progressives and working class voters. God this stuff kills me. It’s exactly the academic PhD BS that everyone rolls their eyes at about liberals. This reeks of Tea Party readjustment. “Shit, they’re onto us - act normal!” How about this as a Democratic organizing principle: Donald Trump is the most corrupt politician in American history, his administration is/was/will be filled with yes-men, cronies and mercenaries, our courts are bought by elites, our campaigns are pay to play, and money has corroded our politics down to the nerve. Drain the mfing swamp. Everything else is window dressing.

[jon-nyc]

[Horace]

What a difference one in 100 voters can make. Flip one in 100 from one election to the next, and the losing tribe begins having these sorts of self-aware conversations, while if that one in 100 voter hadn't flipped, the tribe would have continued on its merry way.

Anyway, they have a great deal of religious fervor to deal with, and it can't be easy to look those walking, talking bony fingers of indignation in the face, and tell them you don't really take them seriously anymore. They sure as hell take themselves seriously, and they're willing and even eager to go to their graves as marginal historical afterthoughts, all the while believing they're on the right side of history. Good luck dealing with that part of the coalition. I am sure the younger ones can be saved. The Jennifer Rubins and all the carbon-copy middle aged/elderly white progressives of the world, will never be.

[Doctor Phibes]

Calming the fuck down is always a good idea IMHO. I've never really been a believer in an election result being the end of the world as we know it at least since I was in my 20's living under the fascist Thatcherite yoke, whether it's Trump getting elected or Obama.

Upper back pain worries me a lot more than any current politician.

[George K]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Matt Yglesias on the way forward for Dems:

Calming the fuck down is always a good idea IMHO.

That always works when I tell my wife to "calm the fuck down,"

[Doctor Phibes]

@George-K said in Matt Yglesias on the way forward for Dems:

@Doctor-Phibes said in Matt Yglesias on the way forward for Dems:

Calming the fuck down is always a good idea IMHO.

That always works when I tell my wife to "calm the fuck down,"

You see, I'm a theoretician, whereas you're a practitioner. Huge difference.