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Maga’s war on the first amendment

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  • G George K
    18 Nov 2024, 01:11

    @jon-nyc said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

    Let’s start with this - investigating people for polls you don’t like doesn’t feel very free-speechy

    I agree.

    Now do Lauren Powell, Jen Psaki, Hillary Clinton and the director of NPR.

    I know, it's a "whataboutism" post. But, where have you been for the last four eight years?

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 01:17 last edited by jon-nyc
    #4

    @George-K said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

    But, where have you been for the last four eight years?

    I partially documented DeSantis’s intense hatred of the first amendment but admittedly I could have done better.

    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      Copper
      wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 01:35 last edited by
      #5

      Shut up

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 01:36 last edited by
        #6

        I see what you did there…

        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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        • J jon-nyc
          18 Nov 2024, 01:15

          Sorry they’re not Maga, plus they didn’t really sell themselves as the free speech alternative to the status quo.

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          George K
          wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 01:43 last edited by
          #7

          @jon-nyc said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

          Sorry they’re not Maga, plus they didn’t really sell themselves as the free speech alternative to the status quo.

          You're right.

          They just came out and said it. That's much better.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 01:48 last edited by
            #8

            Damn, the butthurt is strong. 😆

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 01:50 last edited by
              #9

              IOW, you got nothing to say.

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 01:58 last edited by
                #10

                Not really.

                Seltzer made a fuck-up so bad, it had to be intentional. If Trump wants to call her out on it, he'll have to stand in line.

                She's lost her job and is currently " exploring other job opportunities".

                To get your panties in a wad over this one is picayunish. They'll be much better stuff down the road, I'm sure

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • J jon-nyc
                  18 Nov 2024, 01:15

                  Sorry they’re not Maga, plus they didn’t really sell themselves as the free speech alternative to the status quo.

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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 02:48 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

                  Sorry they’re not Maga

                  2008 to the present day should have taught us a lot about the very legal, very accessible means by which anyone can compromise the first amendment. Focusing on Magas only is not only a waste of time but ludicrous in this context.

                  Please love yourself.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 03:06 last edited by
                    #12

                    TDS performance art.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 03:17 last edited by
                      #13

                      Trump posted something stupid on Social Media? Holy Shit, this changes everything! I mean, yeah, he sent similar stupid and vaguely threatening tweets during his first administration and never actually did anything, but this time is totally different!

                      Call me when he actually has his justice department conduct an investigation.

                      The Brad

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 03:23 last edited by
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                        Of course, it’s rather odd that everyone is focusing on this one specific poll. Quite frankly, it’s hard to believe there weren’t more outlier errors. And I mean that quite literally. It requires a willful ignorance to believe that all the polls were coming back 47-47 give or take 1% in either direction. It’s built in the very nature of polling that there are going to be weird cycles where you get very unlikely results. You run enough samples, you will see some wild results…

                        The Brad

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 04:28 last edited by
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                          The great Vivek Ramaswamy articulated the MAGA platform on free speech:

                          Link to video

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • A Aqua Letifer
                            18 Nov 2024, 02:48

                            @jon-nyc said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

                            Sorry they’re not Maga

                            2008 to the present day should have taught us a lot about the very legal, very accessible means by which anyone can compromise the first amendment. Focusing on Magas only is not only a waste of time but ludicrous in this context.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 06:27 last edited by
                            #16

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

                            @jon-nyc said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

                            Sorry they’re not Maga

                            2008 to the present day should have taught us a lot about the very legal, very accessible means by which anyone can compromise the first amendment. Focusing on Magas only is not only a waste of time but ludicrous in this context.

                            They’re now in charge so it seems quite relevant.

                            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                            • H Horace
                              18 Nov 2024, 03:06

                              TDS performance art.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 06:28 last edited by
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                              @Horace said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

                              TDS performance art.

                              TDS (noun): (1) Trump Derangement Syndrome. (2) A handy epithet used to dismiss claims that offend one's sensibilities without having to go to the bother of providing any arguments.

                              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                              • L LuFins Dad
                                18 Nov 2024, 03:17

                                Trump posted something stupid on Social Media? Holy Shit, this changes everything! I mean, yeah, he sent similar stupid and vaguely threatening tweets during his first administration and never actually did anything, but this time is totally different!

                                Call me when he actually has his justice department conduct an investigation.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 06:30 last edited by
                                #18

                                @LuFins-Dad said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

                                I mean, yeah, he sent similar stupid and vaguely threatening tweets during his first administration and never actually did anything, but this time is totally different!

                                He’s replaced his guard rails with orange cones. So yeah, it may well be different.

                                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                • J jon-nyc
                                  18 Nov 2024, 06:27

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

                                  Sorry they’re not Maga

                                  2008 to the present day should have taught us a lot about the very legal, very accessible means by which anyone can compromise the first amendment. Focusing on Magas only is not only a waste of time but ludicrous in this context.

                                  They’re now in charge so it seems quite relevant.

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                                  Aqua Letifer
                                  wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 06:39 last edited by
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                                  @jon-nyc said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

                                  Sorry they’re not Maga

                                  2008 to the present day should have taught us a lot about the very legal, very accessible means by which anyone can compromise the first amendment. Focusing on Magas only is not only a waste of time but ludicrous in this context.

                                  They’re now in charge so it seems quite relevant.

                                  By a 20th century definition of "in charge" I suppose, sure.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 06:48 last edited by
                                    #20

                                    Im not really sure what you mean by that.

                                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                    • J jon-nyc
                                      18 Nov 2024, 06:48

                                      Im not really sure what you mean by that.

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                                      Aqua Letifer
                                      wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 07:00 last edited by
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                                      @jon-nyc said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

                                      Im not really sure what you mean by that.

                                      Who is in power has absolutely no bearing on the damage liberal wokes are able to cause to the first amendment. (And sure, Magas can too I suppose but the wokes have a massive advantage in that arena.)

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 07:02 last edited by
                                        #22

                                        You are confused about the first amendment. It only applies to government. So you kind of have to control the government to violate it. I suppose some Democratic governors could violate it.

                                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 08:26 last edited by
                                          #23

                                          First Amendment

                                          Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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