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  • George KG George K

    @jon-nyc said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

    Let’s start with this - investigating people for polls you don’t like doesn’t feel very free-speechy

    I agree.

    Now do Lauren Powell, Jen Psaki, Hillary Clinton and the director of NPR.

    I know, it's a "whataboutism" post. But, where have you been for the last four eight years?

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    jon-nyc
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    @George-K said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

    But, where have you been for the last four eight years?

    I partially documented DeSantis’s intense hatred of the first amendment but admittedly I could have done better.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      Shut up

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        jon-nyc
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        I see what you did there…

        Only non-witches get due process.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Sorry they’re not Maga, plus they didn’t really sell themselves as the free speech alternative to the status quo.

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          George K
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          @jon-nyc said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

          Sorry they’re not Maga, plus they didn’t really sell themselves as the free speech alternative to the status quo.

          You're right.

          They just came out and said it. That's much better.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Jolly
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            Damn, the butthurt is strong. 😆

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              jon-nyc
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              #9

              IOW, you got nothing to say.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                Jolly
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                Not really.

                Seltzer made a fuck-up so bad, it had to be intentional. If Trump wants to call her out on it, he'll have to stand in line.

                She's lost her job and is currently " exploring other job opportunities".

                To get your panties in a wad over this one is picayunish. They'll be much better stuff down the road, I'm sure

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  Sorry they’re not Maga, plus they didn’t really sell themselves as the free speech alternative to the status quo.

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                  Aqua Letifer
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                  @jon-nyc said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

                  Sorry they’re not Maga

                  2008 to the present day should have taught us a lot about the very legal, very accessible means by which anyone can compromise the first amendment. Focusing on Magas only is not only a waste of time but ludicrous in this context.

                  Please love yourself.

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                    Horace
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                    TDS performance art.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      LuFins Dad
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                      Trump posted something stupid on Social Media? Holy Shit, this changes everything! I mean, yeah, he sent similar stupid and vaguely threatening tweets during his first administration and never actually did anything, but this time is totally different!

                      Call me when he actually has his justice department conduct an investigation.

                      The Brad

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                        Of course, it’s rather odd that everyone is focusing on this one specific poll. Quite frankly, it’s hard to believe there weren’t more outlier errors. And I mean that quite literally. It requires a willful ignorance to believe that all the polls were coming back 47-47 give or take 1% in either direction. It’s built in the very nature of polling that there are going to be weird cycles where you get very unlikely results. You run enough samples, you will see some wild results…

                        The Brad

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                          The great Vivek Ramaswamy articulated the MAGA platform on free speech:

                          Link to video

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @jon-nyc said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

                            Sorry they’re not Maga

                            2008 to the present day should have taught us a lot about the very legal, very accessible means by which anyone can compromise the first amendment. Focusing on Magas only is not only a waste of time but ludicrous in this context.

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                            jon-nyc
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                            #16

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

                            @jon-nyc said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

                            Sorry they’re not Maga

                            2008 to the present day should have taught us a lot about the very legal, very accessible means by which anyone can compromise the first amendment. Focusing on Magas only is not only a waste of time but ludicrous in this context.

                            They’re now in charge so it seems quite relevant.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              TDS performance art.

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                              jon-nyc
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                              @Horace said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

                              TDS performance art.

                              TDS (noun): (1) Trump Derangement Syndrome. (2) A handy epithet used to dismiss claims that offend one's sensibilities without having to go to the bother of providing any arguments.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                Trump posted something stupid on Social Media? Holy Shit, this changes everything! I mean, yeah, he sent similar stupid and vaguely threatening tweets during his first administration and never actually did anything, but this time is totally different!

                                Call me when he actually has his justice department conduct an investigation.

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                                jon-nyc
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                                @LuFins-Dad said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

                                I mean, yeah, he sent similar stupid and vaguely threatening tweets during his first administration and never actually did anything, but this time is totally different!

                                He’s replaced his guard rails with orange cones. So yeah, it may well be different.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

                                  Sorry they’re not Maga

                                  2008 to the present day should have taught us a lot about the very legal, very accessible means by which anyone can compromise the first amendment. Focusing on Magas only is not only a waste of time but ludicrous in this context.

                                  They’re now in charge so it seems quite relevant.

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                                  Aqua Letifer
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                                  @jon-nyc said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

                                  Sorry they’re not Maga

                                  2008 to the present day should have taught us a lot about the very legal, very accessible means by which anyone can compromise the first amendment. Focusing on Magas only is not only a waste of time but ludicrous in this context.

                                  They’re now in charge so it seems quite relevant.

                                  By a 20th century definition of "in charge" I suppose, sure.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    Im not really sure what you mean by that.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Im not really sure what you mean by that.

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                                      Aqua Letifer
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                                      @jon-nyc said in Maga’s war on the first amendment:

                                      Im not really sure what you mean by that.

                                      Who is in power has absolutely no bearing on the damage liberal wokes are able to cause to the first amendment. (And sure, Magas can too I suppose but the wokes have a massive advantage in that arena.)

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #22

                                        You are confused about the first amendment. It only applies to government. So you kind of have to control the government to violate it. I suppose some Democratic governors could violate it.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          First Amendment

                                          Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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