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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 15 Nov 2024, 03:00 last edited by
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    You know what’s really crazy?

    RFK Jr at HHS, Matt Gaetz as Attorney General, and it’s still better than the alternative last week…

    The Brad

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 15 Nov 2024, 03:18 last edited by jon-nyc
      #202

      Ok @LuFins-Dad , maybe you don’t like dudes in skirts, I’m not in love with the fashion statement myself. But what was the HHS doing last week that made you think that RFK running it would improve things on net?

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 15 Nov 2024, 03:54 last edited by
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        It’s nice to see how much Trump learned from last time. This is so professional compared to 2016.

        I was only joking

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          George K
          wrote on 15 Nov 2024, 20:34 last edited by
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          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Horace
            wrote on 15 Nov 2024, 20:59 last edited by Horace
            #205

            I'm not clear whether these en masse "recess appointments" were ever more than a figment of TDS imagination. I'm also not clear how the senate votes on whether to pass a recess, during a recess.

            Education is extremely important.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 15 Nov 2024, 21:19 last edited by Jolly
              #206

              Meanwhile, work goes on.

              Word is, Mike Rogers is headed to see Trump and is under consideration to head the FBI. His competition is Kash Patel.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Jolly
                wrote on 15 Nov 2024, 21:22 last edited by
                #207

                Treasury looks like it's down to Bessent or Lutnick.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • J Jolly
                  15 Nov 2024, 21:19

                  Meanwhile, work goes on.

                  Word is, Mike Rogers is headed to see Trump and is under consideration to head the FBI. His competition is Kash Patel.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 15 Nov 2024, 21:29 last edited by
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                  @Jolly said in President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

                  Meanwhile, work goes on.

                  Word is, Mike Rogers is headed to see Trump and is under consideration to head the FBI. His competition is Kash Patel.

                  Alabama Mike Rogers or Michigan Mike Rogers?

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                  • J jon-nyc
                    15 Nov 2024, 21:29

                    @Jolly said in President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

                    Meanwhile, work goes on.

                    Word is, Mike Rogers is headed to see Trump and is under consideration to head the FBI. His competition is Kash Patel.

                    Alabama Mike Rogers or Michigan Mike Rogers?

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 15 Nov 2024, 21:31 last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc said in President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

                    @Jolly said in President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

                    Meanwhile, work goes on.

                    Word is, Mike Rogers is headed to see Trump and is under consideration to head the FBI. His competition is Kash Patel.

                    Alabama Mike Rogers or Michigan Mike Rogers?

                    Michigan.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • H Horace
                      15 Nov 2024, 20:59

                      I'm not clear whether these en masse "recess appointments" were ever more than a figment of TDS imagination. I'm also not clear how the senate votes on whether to pass a recess, during a recess.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 15 Nov 2024, 21:35 last edited by
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                      @Horace said in President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

                      I'm not clear whether these en masse "recess appointments" were ever more than a figment of TDS imagination.

                      Unless by TDS means ‘Trump’s Dick is Small’ I’d say you’re wrong. He was the one pushing for it.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                      • J jon-nyc
                        15 Nov 2024, 21:35

                        @Horace said in President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

                        I'm not clear whether these en masse "recess appointments" were ever more than a figment of TDS imagination.

                        Unless by TDS means ‘Trump’s Dick is Small’ I’d say you’re wrong. He was the one pushing for it.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 15 Nov 2024, 21:46 last edited by
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                        @jon-nyc said in President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

                        @Horace said in President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

                        I'm not clear whether these en masse "recess appointments" were ever more than a figment of TDS imagination.

                        Unless by TDS means ‘Trump’s Dick is Small’ I’d say you’re wrong. He was the one pushing for it.

                        I had to do my own research on this, and my own thinking. This is what I believe. First, recess appointments don't need congressional approval, so the leader of the senate plays no role in them. The senate apparently has to vote for a recess, though. If Trump advertises his desire to do recess appointments, the Senate won't go into recess until his cabinet is confirmed and filled. That's why he advertised his desire to do the recess appointments. If he had really wanted to subvert expectations and jam through a bunch of recess appointments, he would have kept it secret and waited for an unaware congress to call its next recess.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 15 Nov 2024, 22:42 last edited by
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                          You believe Trump tweeted that the next senate leader should support recess appointments as a way to warn the Senate that he might do them so they’d know not to go into recess?

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                          • J jon-nyc
                            15 Nov 2024, 22:42

                            You believe Trump tweeted that the next senate leader should support recess appointments as a way to warn the Senate that he might do them so they’d know not to go into recess?

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 15 Nov 2024, 23:14 last edited by
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                            @jon-nyc said in President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

                            You believe Trump tweeted that the next senate leader should support recess appointments as a way to warn the Senate that he might do them so they’d know not to go into recess?

                            Yes. I am surprised this theory hasn't surfaced in your twitter feed yet. It's coherent, and it explains everything that's happened so far, including the Gaetz nomination. He is the poison pill of going into recess before confirming a cabinet.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 15 Nov 2024, 23:31 last edited by
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                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 15 Nov 2024, 23:58 last edited by George K
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                                Trey Gowdy just said that at least one of the nominees has zero chance of getting through. He said it's not even 50/50. It's less than half of the GOP Senators will vote to approve him.

                                "And I talk to senators all the time."

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 16 Nov 2024, 01:15 last edited by
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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • G George K
                                    15 Nov 2024, 23:58

                                    Trey Gowdy just said that at least one of the nominees has zero chance of getting through. He said it's not even 50/50. It's less than half of the GOP Senators will vote to approve him.

                                    "And I talk to senators all the time."

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 16 Nov 2024, 02:25 last edited by
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                                    @George-K said in President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

                                    Trey Gowdy just said that at least one of the nominees has zero chance of getting through. He said it's not even 50/50. It's less than half of the GOP Senators will vote to approve him.

                                    "And I talk to senators all the time."

                                    Which means, the only way he gets in is a recess appointment, and the only way there's a recess is if they vote for one (presumably requiring a majority), which means, congress remains in session until it confirms a cabinet the old fashioned way, through vote confirmations, and that gets done faster than it would have if Trump hadn't threatened recess appointments of unpalatable jerks.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      15 Nov 2024, 23:14

                                      @jon-nyc said in President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

                                      You believe Trump tweeted that the next senate leader should support recess appointments as a way to warn the Senate that he might do them so they’d know not to go into recess?

                                      Yes. I am surprised this theory hasn't surfaced in your twitter feed yet. It's coherent, and it explains everything that's happened so far, including the Gaetz nomination. He is the poison pill of going into recess before confirming a cabinet.

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 16 Nov 2024, 03:03 last edited by
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                                      @Horace said in President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

                                      @jon-nyc said in President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

                                      You believe Trump tweeted that the next senate leader should support recess appointments as a way to warn the Senate that he might do them so they’d know not to go into recess?

                                      Yes. I am surprised this theory hasn't surfaced in your twitter feed yet. It's coherent, and it explains everything that's happened so far, including the Gaetz nomination. He is the poison pill of going into recess before confirming a cabinet.

                                      Tipping off his opponents so they can block him doesn’t seem like normal Trump behavior.

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      • J jon-nyc
                                        16 Nov 2024, 03:03

                                        @Horace said in President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

                                        @jon-nyc said in President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

                                        You believe Trump tweeted that the next senate leader should support recess appointments as a way to warn the Senate that he might do them so they’d know not to go into recess?

                                        Yes. I am surprised this theory hasn't surfaced in your twitter feed yet. It's coherent, and it explains everything that's happened so far, including the Gaetz nomination. He is the poison pill of going into recess before confirming a cabinet.

                                        Tipping off his opponents so they can block him doesn’t seem like normal Trump behavior.

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 16 Nov 2024, 03:19 last edited by
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                                        @jon-nyc said in President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

                                        @Horace said in President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

                                        @jon-nyc said in President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

                                        You believe Trump tweeted that the next senate leader should support recess appointments as a way to warn the Senate that he might do them so they’d know not to go into recess?

                                        Yes. I am surprised this theory hasn't surfaced in your twitter feed yet. It's coherent, and it explains everything that's happened so far, including the Gaetz nomination. He is the poison pill of going into recess before confirming a cabinet.

                                        Tipping off his opponents so they can block him doesn’t seem like normal Trump behavior.

                                        Getting "blocked" from recess appointments is the point, since getting blocked means not going to recess, which means confirmation hearings, in quick order. If I'm right, AG will be the last cabinet member to be confirmed, keeping a Gaetz recess appointment on the table until the confirmation process is complete. I could be wrong, but this makes sense to me. We'll see how it goes. Just look for whether AG happens to be the last hearing scheduled by the senate leader.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Axtremus
                                          wrote on 16 Nov 2024, 11:31 last edited by
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                                          One possibility is to have a confirmation vote for that unpalatable candidate quickly and vote that candidate down. That should remove the threat of recess appointment, at least one with that unpalatable candidate.

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