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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    several come to mind without even thinking about it...

    Get the DoD to seize voting machines?
    Have his VP pick and choose which states to certify based on who they voted for?
    Bomb Mexico?
    Block the ATT/Time Warner merger due to his dislike of CNN coverage?

    Oh - and I have one from personal knowledge. A certain FEMA director would get call from him saying things like "don't give any disaster aid to California'. The reply was always "I'll do whatever I can consistent with the law, Mr President."

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      several come to mind without even thinking about it...

      Get the DoD to seize voting machines?
      Have his VP pick and choose which states to certify based on who they voted for?
      Bomb Mexico?
      Block the ATT/Time Warner merger due to his dislike of CNN coverage?

      Oh - and I have one from personal knowledge. A certain FEMA director would get call from him saying things like "don't give any disaster aid to California'. The reply was always "I'll do whatever I can consistent with the law, Mr President."

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      Horace
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      @jon-nyc said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

      several come to mind without even thinking about it...

      Get the DoD to seize voting machines?
      Have his VP pick and choose which states to certify based on who they voted for?
      Bomb Mexico?
      Block the ATT/Time Warner merger due to his dislike of CNN coverage?

      Oh - and I have one from personal knowledge. A certain FEMA director would get call from him saying things like "don't give any disaster aid to California'. The reply was always "I'll do whatever I can consistent with the law, Mr President."

      I guess we're all free to take those as seriously as we'd like, and to forecast them into a next term as seriously as we'd like. The election denial stuff is off the table, as he'll never be in a position again to be re-elected. Maybe the US would have bombed Mexico if the adults hadn't been in the room. Maybe CA would have received no disaster aid if the adults hadn't been in the room. You can believe it as you please, but you won't be convincing many people that any of that is serious.

      Education is extremely important.

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        @jon-nyc said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

        several come to mind without even thinking about it...

        Get the DoD to seize voting machines?
        Have his VP pick and choose which states to certify based on who they voted for?
        Bomb Mexico?
        Block the ATT/Time Warner merger due to his dislike of CNN coverage?

        Oh - and I have one from personal knowledge. A certain FEMA director would get call from him saying things like "don't give any disaster aid to California'. The reply was always "I'll do whatever I can consistent with the law, Mr President."

        I guess we're all free to take those as seriously as we'd like, and to forecast them into a next term as seriously as we'd like. The election denial stuff is off the table, as he'll never be in a position again to be re-elected. Maybe the US would have bombed Mexico if the adults hadn't been in the room. Maybe CA would have received no disaster aid if the adults hadn't been in the room. You can believe it as you please, but you won't be convincing many people that any of that is serious.

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        @Horace said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

        You can believe it as you please, but you won't be convincing many people that any of that is serious.

        How can a person then decide when he is serious and what is not? If a president says something, I think that the default is that you believe him. You cant give President Trump a "pass" just because you think he was not serious.

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        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

          @Horace said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

          You can believe it as you please, but you won't be convincing many people that any of that is serious.

          How can a person then decide when he is serious and what is not? If a president says something, I think that the default is that you believe him. You cant give President Trump a "pass" just because you think he was not serious.

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          Horace
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          @taiwan_girl said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

          @Horace said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

          You can believe it as you please, but you won't be convincing many people that any of that is serious.

          How can a person then decide when he is serious and what is not? If a president says something, I think that the default is that you believe him. You cant give President Trump a "pass" just because you think he was not serious.

          I can't? So I have to think that, without the adults in the room in 2018, he would have bombed Mexico? I'd rather be stupid and right, than smart and wrong. Hopefully we'll get another four years to gradually, over the span of 1400 days, prove the smart people wrong. Again.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

            @Horace said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

            You can believe it as you please, but you won't be convincing many people that any of that is serious.

            How can a person then decide when he is serious and what is not? If a president says something, I think that the default is that you believe him. You cant give President Trump a "pass" just because you think he was not serious.

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            @taiwan_girl said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

            @Horace said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

            You can believe it as you please, but you won't be convincing many people that any of that is serious.

            How can a person then decide when he is serious and what is not?

            It helps to have a sense of humor.

            Please love yourself.

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              A heartwarming bromance and discussion between two of the smartest and most interesting thinkers on the planet, Bryan Caplan and Robin Hanson. Hanson has been thinking about culture lately, and they bat around a few ideas here, mostly that the dropping fertility is a maladaptive cultural drift allowed for by a lack of selection pressures on culture.

              Link to video

              Education is extremely important.

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                I will certainly listen. Just reading your sentence though I am curious why they say there are no selection pressures on culture. Those cultures with below replacement rate fertility rates will eventually die out and those above replacement rate will prosper. That’s how selection pressure works. It just takes time.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                  For those of us who hate watching videos is there a podcast this appears on?

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    I will certainly listen. Just reading your sentence though I am curious why they say there are no selection pressures on culture. Those cultures with below replacement rate fertility rates will eventually die out and those above replacement rate will prosper. That’s how selection pressure works. It just takes time.

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                    @jon-nyc said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

                    I will certainly listen. Just reading your sentence though I am curious why they say there are no selection pressures on culture. Those cultures with below replacement rate fertility rates will eventually die out and those above replacement rate will prosper. That’s how selection pressure works. It just takes time.

                    Caplan makes this point, and Hanson acknowledges it. The selection pressures are not immediate enough to convince anybody they are behaving against their own interests, would be the point.

                    And my own take would be that there is a certain cultural suicidality associated with our current mainstream leftism, and many are convinced that "not this" is better than "this".

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      For those of us who hate watching videos is there a podcast this appears on?

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                      @jon-nyc said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

                      For those of us who hate watching videos is there a podcast this appears on?

                      Not that I know of. I use youtube as a podcast ap anyway. If you pay for a subscription, you can lock your phone and it'll keep playing the audio.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        Horace
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                        Sam Harris finally weighed in. I've been waiting for that one.

                        Link to video

                        He starts out very weakly, by saying Trump will now have all three branches of government, including the Supreme Court. That is a terribly politicized perspective on the Supreme Court. I remain confident that the constitution has the Supreme Court, rather than Trump.

                        Beyond that, Sam accurately lays the defeat of his favored Democrats, at the feet of the cultural craziness of trans, DEI, border, etc, all of which, from the left, are dominated by the religious self-righteousness of fringe activists and academia.

                        I see no inclination amongst those sorts to do any self-reflection. This makes sense, when one recognizes it as a religion. If it's the meaning of life to be on the religious right side of history, it doesn't really matter what's on the other side of that scale. It will remain the right thing to do, to follow one's virtue, no matter the cost. You might say, the end game is to die a decent person, rather than make any incremental differences towards the good. You might recognize this sort of attitude in the writings of a certain pastor we're familiar with.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          Yeah, I thought Sam did a good job of noting the detriment of the Dem's support the trans activist community. That issue alone may have caused the loss though I still think Harris's answer as to how her policies might differ from Biden's was also pretty devastating.

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                            He ended with a long litany of the damage Trump has done and all of Trump's inadequacies. Somehow he got stuck in the idea that anybody who voted for him was "fine with all of that". Sam became characteristically unable to see nuance, once his TDS kicked in.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              On Al Franken's podcast today, the guest described Trump's plan to "pardon January 6 rioters" as a plan to create a personal armed militia. Franken nodded solemnly. Serious stuff.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                He ended with a long litany of the damage Trump has done and all of Trump's inadequacies. Somehow he got stuck in the idea that anybody who voted for him was "fine with all of that". Sam became characteristically unable to see nuance, once his TDS kicked in.

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                                @Horace said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

                                He ended with a long litany of the damage Trump has done

                                Don't feel like finding it.

                                Can you summarize the litany?

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  On Al Franken's podcast today, the guest described Trump's plan to "pardon January 6 rioters" as a plan to create a personal armed militia. Franken nodded solemnly. Serious stuff.

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                                  @Horace said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

                                  plan to create a personal armed militia.

                                  Will Jolly join?

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @Horace said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

                                    He ended with a long litany of the damage Trump has done

                                    Don't feel like finding it.

                                    Can you summarize the litany?

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                                    @George-K said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

                                    @Horace said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

                                    He ended with a long litany of the damage Trump has done

                                    Don't feel like finding it.

                                    Can you summarize the litany?

                                    The punch line goes something like this:

                                    1. Sam imagines there would have been a civil war if the election was close and Trump lost after Kamala made a late comeback.
                                    2. Sam blames Trump for that civil war.

                                    My take? There wouldn't have been a civil war.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      I think Sam was doing what a lot of never-Trumpers who wrote catastrophic checks leading up to the election, are doing. He's hedging his bets by concentrating on stuff that Trump has already done, and saying very little about what he thinks this upcoming administration will actually do. There'll be plenty of this subtle repositioning, as people prepare for any reputational hit they may take, if the next four years are successful.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        @Horace said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

                                        plan to create a personal armed militia.

                                        Will Jolly join?

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                                        @Copper said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

                                        @Horace said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

                                        plan to create a personal armed militia.

                                        Will Jolly join?

                                        Have gun. Will travel. 🤠

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          Ezra was doing some more self reflection on his party and how it started losing minorities to Trump. He got into the nuts and bolts that I’ve only ever heard from conservative pundits. Like, in the rooms where Dem strategy happens, you’ll often have one person of color, and they’ll be given special deference, and they’ll be “speaking for their people”, but they’re not actually speaking for their people. They are just parroting progressive-approved identity politics, and it’s not necessarily resonant with the people they claim to represent, who aren’t in that room. (Because they have real jobs.)

                                          Education is extremely important.

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