Flawless Campaign
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wrote on 8 Nov 2024, 02:20 last edited by
@Jolly said in Flawless Campaign:
Young people are getting pretty wise to this. Some of the older ones are starting to...
Gettin' pretty close to that sell-by date, there, traditional journalism.
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wrote on 8 Nov 2024, 02:22 last edited by
Perhaps her biggest mistake was not even trying to differentiate herself from Biden which meant - "like how things are now - vote for me.."
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Perhaps her biggest mistake was not even trying to differentiate herself from Biden which meant - "like how things are now - vote for me.."
wrote on 8 Nov 2024, 02:42 last edited by@kluurs said in Flawless Campaign:
Perhaps her biggest mistake was not even trying to differentiate herself from Biden which meant - "like how things are now - vote for me.."
Yes. One of the hosts on The View threw her the softball "what is something you would have done differently from Biden". It is inexcusable that her answer was "nothing". To not be prepared with an answer that sounds satisfying, is a level of incompetence from her campaign staff that would be unbelievable, if we weren't already aware that even agencies like the secret service are absurdly incompetent. (Of course, a talented politician could have made something up on the spot, but even an untalented pawn like her should have been prepared.)
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Perhaps her biggest mistake was not even trying to differentiate herself from Biden which meant - "like how things are now - vote for me.."
wrote on 8 Nov 2024, 02:43 last edited by@kluurs said in Flawless Campaign:
Perhaps her biggest mistake was not even trying to differentiate herself from Biden which meant - "like how things are now - vote for me.."
Exactly. People have been consistently unhappy with the Biden regime. The fact that she failed to be different - even saying that she couldn't think of any way she would be different - was fatal.
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wrote on 8 Nov 2024, 02:48 last edited by
She could have done things to stall for time - saying positive things about what Biden had done - infrastructure, chips, yada - and then said - but we need to address...border, blue collar, healthcare costs, peace process - and avoid gender identity.
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wrote on 8 Nov 2024, 02:49 last edited by
The campaign does not negate the weakness shown by this administration. Inflation and identity politics aside, we are tiptoeing around WWIII and our adversaries feel pretty free to do as they wish. That to me is huge.
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wrote on 8 Nov 2024, 14:41 last edited by
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wrote on 8 Nov 2024, 14:55 last edited by
Oh, the flawless campaign ended up $20MM in debt.
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wrote on 8 Nov 2024, 15:07 last edited by
@George-K said in Flawless Campaign:
Oh, the flawless campaign ended up $20MM in debt.
With all that money?
WTF!
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wrote on 8 Nov 2024, 16:09 last edited by
The perfect summation of the Harris campaign, starting from 3:41
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wrote on 8 Nov 2024, 16:17 last edited by
So she was asked how things will change, by Colbert, and he even loaded the question with the notion that the electorate is really looking for a good answer to that question. Then she face plants. But she was asked that same question on the View, and face planted there too. One of those interviews came first. Doesn’t really matter which one. One of them came second. After she had failed to answer the most important question of her campaign. She didn’t use that time to prepare a good answer. Her campaign didn’t prepare her with an answer, during that time.
So if you want a conspiracy theory, here it is. The whole Dem apparatus tried to lose this election.
But no, actually, it’s just that the depths of human incompetence run yet deeper than anybody could have imagined.
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@kluurs said in Flawless Campaign:
Perhaps her biggest mistake was not even trying to differentiate herself from Biden which meant - "like how things are now - vote for me.."
Exactly. People have been consistently unhappy with the Biden regime. The fact that she failed to be different - even saying that she couldn't think of any way she would be different - was fatal.
wrote on 8 Nov 2024, 16:44 last edited by@George-K said in Flawless Campaign:
@kluurs said in Flawless Campaign:
Perhaps her biggest mistake was not even trying to differentiate herself from Biden which meant - "like how things are now - vote for me.."
Exactly. People have been consistently unhappy with the Biden regime. The fact that she failed to be different - even saying that she couldn't think of any way she would be different - was fatal.
And yet she still ran on “Turn the Page” and change.
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@George-K said in Flawless Campaign:
Oh, the flawless campaign ended up $20MM in debt.
With all that money?
WTF!
wrote on 8 Nov 2024, 16:45 last edited by@Jolly said in Flawless Campaign:
@George-K said in Flawless Campaign:
Oh, the flawless campaign ended up $20MM in debt.
With all that money?
WTF!
They were unburdened of the $2 Billion.
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wrote on 8 Nov 2024, 16:53 last edited by
I didn't think the campaign was the problem. The problem was Biden leaving it too late to drop out so that the primaries appeared bogus, and then they stuck in a candidate who had zero personal charm or charisma, and as far as I could tell not much in the way of real beliefs.
Other than that, it was great.
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wrote on 8 Nov 2024, 16:58 last edited by
The problem wasn’t either campaign. It was the three years preceding it.
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wrote on 8 Nov 2024, 17:24 last edited by
Interesting note from the exit polls was while 35% of voters listed “Democracy” as their number one concern, Trump actually won those voters in swing states.
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The problem wasn’t either campaign. It was the three years preceding it.
wrote on 8 Nov 2024, 17:36 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Flawless Campaign:
The problem wasn’t either campaign. It was the three years preceding it.
I don't see how this is provable one way or the other, but it seems dubious to believe the campaign didn't matter.
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Interesting note from the exit polls was while 35% of voters listed “Democracy” as their number one concern, Trump actually won those voters in swing states.
wrote on 8 Nov 2024, 17:51 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Flawless Campaign:
Interesting note from the exit polls was while 35% of voters listed “Democracy” as their number one concern, Trump actually won those voters in swing states.
That is interesting
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wrote on 8 Nov 2024, 22:03 last edited by
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I didn't think the campaign was the problem. The problem was Biden leaving it too late to drop out so that the primaries appeared bogus, and then they stuck in a candidate who had zero personal charm or charisma, and as far as I could tell not much in the way of real beliefs.
Other than that, it was great.
wrote on 9 Nov 2024, 02:10 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Flawless Campaign:
they stuck in a candidate who had zero personal charm or charisma, and as far as I could tell not much in the way of real beliefs.
Agree. From the very beginning, our small "cross section" here on this forum were pretty much in agreement that she was not a very good candidate.