Polarization? What polarization?

[Mik]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/opinion-the-era-of-political-polarization-is-over/ar-AA1tuMjy

[Horace]

Fair enough. The tribal polarization is extreme still, but there is a point to be made about relatively low policy polarization. The old saw comes to mind about how fights in academia are so vicious, because the stakes are so low.

[jon-nyc]

Wow. No mention of the national consumer tax on imports.

[Mik]

Yeah, I found the article a bit blithe, but interesting to consider for the points that were valid. We will survive no matter who is elected.

[jon-nyc]

Also he really downplayed Ukraine to the point of dishonesty.

Vance wouldn’t even say who he wanted to win. That’s pure moral confusion.

[Horace]

No framing of tariffs where it's all a tax on Americans, with no benefit to Americans, is serious. Remember Trump's China tariffs which were carrot/stick and which haven't been repealed by the Biden admin. As for Ukraine, the current "morally certain" tack is not necessarily going to lead to the morally good conclusion, and I don't hear military types even claim as much.

[Jolly]

Wrong.

Rhetoric may espoused more similar positions, but that's just rhetoric. What is actually done will be vastly different.

[Horace]

For Ukraine, the fairy tale ending exists only in the magical thinking of the left. I wonder how the practical end of that conflict would differ between the two administrations.

[Renauda]

@Horace

For Ukraine, the fairy tale ending exists only in the magical thinking of the left.

The only fairy tale ending for Ukraine is in the perverse minds of those on the far left who still think Russia is a proletarian state and that Putin is liberating Ukraine from the grips of Nazis beholden to and in the pay of the CIA and MI6. The equally perverse far right is not far behind in a similar false Cinderella assessment.

The rest of us know very well that the current nightmare will be ongoing for some time. The tale ending in tragedy has already been set.