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    every one of our chest X-rays in my institution (must be hundreds a day) undergo AI reading in addition to being read by a radiologist. This has resulted in numerous call backs for CTs because of missed small lesions susp for lung cancer.
    Yes in breast imaging also pretty sharp but we don’t have that incorporated automatically like chest films.
    We also are beginning to use AI in pathology slide readings.

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    • bachophileB bachophile

      every one of our chest X-rays in my institution (must be hundreds a day) undergo AI reading in addition to being read by a radiologist. This has resulted in numerous call backs for CTs because of missed small lesions susp for lung cancer.
      Yes in breast imaging also pretty sharp but we don’t have that incorporated automatically like chest films.
      We also are beginning to use AI in pathology slide readings.

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      @bachophile said in Today's medical mysterie.:

      We also are beginning to use AI in pathology slide readings.

      Makes sense. Head scratchers do occur.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Just an example of two random chest X-rays I pulled up just now. On the bottom of each is the abnormality score rated by an AI. One was completely normal. The other showed a bilateral pneumonia. Those would be seen easily anyway. The tricky ones are the small nodules which can be missed and may be early lung cancer. And it works. We have picked up otherwise occult cancers missed by the radiologist.

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        • George KG Offline
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          Nice mitral valve in pic #2.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Found an example

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            • bachophileB bachophile

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              06beb26c-e287-499e-91f1-280c6cbdd97b.jpeg

              Found an example

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              @bachophile said in Today's medical mysterie.:

              Found an example

              I'm no photon-shooter, but that one's pretty obvious.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                whatever

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                  in the meantime, im not that far away from retirement, when i come into the the ER with my congestive heart failure or pneumonia, i presume the AI will be all there is.

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    And here I thought he problem was that he was see through. I mean, you can see past his skin and blood and everything. That’s nuts!

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                    @LuFins-Dad said in Today's medical mysterie.:

                    I thought he problem was that he was see through

                    Doctors get so serious about this stuff.

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                    • bachophileB bachophile

                      every one of our chest X-rays in my institution (must be hundreds a day) undergo AI reading in addition to being read by a radiologist. This has resulted in numerous call backs for CTs because of missed small lesions susp for lung cancer.
                      Yes in breast imaging also pretty sharp but we don’t have that incorporated automatically like chest films.
                      We also are beginning to use AI in pathology slide readings.

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                      @bachophile said in Today's medical mysterie.:

                      every one of our chest X-rays in my institution (must be hundreds a day) undergo AI reading in addition to being read by a radiologist. This has resulted in numerous call backs for CTs because of missed small lesions susp for lung cancer.
                      Yes in breast imaging also pretty sharp but we don’t have that incorporated automatically like chest films.
                      We also are beginning to use AI in pathology slide readings.

                      I wonder if our spanky new oh so supposedly awesome Cancer Centre uses this technology? Ever think of an interim pre-retirement move? I’m sure we’d really appreciate you here @bachophile 😊

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                      • bachophileB bachophile

                        in the meantime, im not that far away from retirement, when i come into the the ER with my congestive heart failure or pneumonia, i presume the AI will be all there is.

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                        @bachophile said in Today's medical mysterie.:

                        in the meantime, im not that far away from retirement, when i come into the the ER with my congestive heart failure or pneumonia, i presume the AI will be all there is.

                        Oh, negate my last comment. You don’t want to die here. Truly.

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                          @bachophile said in Today's medical mysterie.:

                          every one of our chest X-rays in my institution (must be hundreds a day) undergo AI reading in addition to being read by a radiologist. This has resulted in numerous call backs for CTs because of missed small lesions susp for lung cancer.
                          Yes in breast imaging also pretty sharp but we don’t have that incorporated automatically like chest films.
                          We also are beginning to use AI in pathology slide readings.

                          I wonder if our spanky new oh so supposedly awesome Cancer Centre uses this technology? Ever think of an interim pre-retirement move? I’m sure we’d really appreciate you here @bachophile 😊

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                          @blondie said in Today's medical mysterie.:

                          I’m sure we’d really appreciate you here

                          I believe he spent time in Calgary for fellowship.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  @blondie said in Today's medical mysterie.:

                                  I’m sure we’d really appreciate you here

                                  I believe he spent time in Calgary for fellowship.

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                                  @George-K yea I did my surg onc fellowship in Calgary. Loved it.

                                  my institution invests a lot in innovation ( we r number 10 in worlds smart hospitals https://www.newsweek.com/rankings/worlds-best-smart-hospitals-2025. )

                                  So we have lots of things like AI stuff in various disciplines

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                                  • bachophileB bachophile

                                    in the meantime, im not that far away from retirement, when i come into the the ER with my congestive heart failure or pneumonia, i presume the AI will be all there is.

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                                    @bachophile said in Today's medical mysterie.:

                                    when i come into the the ER with my congestive heart failure or pneumonia, i presume the AI will be all there is.

                                    OK, doc...

                                    Let's ask AI:

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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Ugg. The guy has gas forming bacteria in his arm. If he doesn’t get debrided soon he will go into septic shock, lose his arm, and probably his life.

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                                      • bachophileB bachophile

                                        Ugg. The guy has gas forming bacteria in his arm. If he doesn’t get debrided soon he will go into septic shock, lose his arm, and probably his life.

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                                        @bachophile said in Today's medical mysterie.:

                                        Ugg. The guy has gas forming bacteria in his arm. If he doesn’t get debrided soon he will go into septic shock, lose his arm, and probably his life.

                                        Exactly. Even I saw it.

                                        And, as far as AI goes, there’s no fracture. Nice jog, Grok.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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