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The Thing Jon et al missed while focusing on Trump and Arnold Palmer’s Package

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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    The PA Steelworkers Unions publicly endorsed Trump at that rally.

    Link to video

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    • MikM Offline
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      860,000 members. That's a lot of votes.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        860,000 members. That's a lot of votes.

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        @Mik said in The Thing Jon et al missed while focusing on Trump and Arnold Palmer’s Package:

        860,000 members. That's a lot of votes.

        That are historically Dem.

        The Brad

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          Just curious. HOw effective do you think these union endorsments are for both sides?

          Do you think that a large part of the union will vote just because the leadership says that.

          (I agree that they may take an internal vote and the majority candidate will be who they endorse)

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          • MikM Mik

            860,000 members. That's a lot of votes.

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            @Mik said in The Thing Jon et al missed while focusing on Trump and Arnold Palmer’s Package:

            860,000 members. That's a lot of votes.

            That’s the total across the US and Canada. This was just PA.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              You think the rest will endorse Harris? I doubt it.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                If there’s any group that likes protectionism it’s the steelworkers.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @Mik said in The Thing Jon et al missed while focusing on Trump and Arnold Palmer’s Package:

                  860,000 members. That's a lot of votes.

                  That’s the total across the US and Canada. This was just PA.

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                  @jon-nyc said in The Thing Jon et al missed while focusing on Trump and Arnold Palmer’s Package:

                  @Mik said in The Thing Jon et al missed while focusing on Trump and Arnold Palmer’s Package:

                  860,000 members. That's a lot of votes.

                  That’s the total across the US and Canada. This was just PA.

                  No, that’s around 1.2 Million.

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                    If you include retirees.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      Just curious. HOw effective do you think these union endorsments are for both sides?

                      Do you think that a large part of the union will vote just because the leadership says that.

                      (I agree that they may take an internal vote and the majority candidate will be who they endorse)

                      LuFins DadL Offline
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                      @taiwan_girl said in The Thing Jon et al missed while focusing on Trump and Arnold Palmer’s Package:

                      Just curious. HOw effective do you think these union endorsments are for both sides?

                      Do you think that a large part of the union will vote just because the leadership says that.

                      (I agree that they may take an internal vote and the majority candidate will be who they endorse)

                      Historically, the union endorsements were very powerful. It wasn’t too long ago that if the union found out you didn’t go with the flow, you would be spending a couple of months on Workman’s Comp, if you get my drift. In recent years it has been as monolithic and has even forced Union leadership to change their approach.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        If you include retirees.

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                        @jon-nyc said in The Thing Jon et al missed while focusing on Trump and Arnold Palmer’s Package:

                        If you include retirees.

                        They vote too.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Fair enough but theres still nowhere near 800k USW in their PA chapter. They have 850k-ish member and another couple hundred thousand retirees across 13 districts. I have no doubt PA is a large district but no way it’s almost the entire whole.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            About 125K currently employed in the steel industry in PA. Add in another 15K Mineworkers (can’t effectively make steel without coal) that are members of the UMW, which conducted internal polls and decided not to endorse a presidential candidate this year (though they did endorse Casey, and a straight Democratic ticket on the local campaigns). Both the Steelworkers Union and the UMW carry a lot of weight in Pennsylvania beyond their direct members.

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                              True that. Had a different point been made my objection wouldn’t have applied. But…

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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