Election Integrity, the Georgia approach

[Axtremus]

https://www.ajc.com/politics/georgia-election-board-passes-hand-counting-requirement-on-election-night/234EQUP27VBL5CW2VS2HYQJCS4/

The Georgia Election Board’s Republican majority voted Friday to require a hand count of all ballots after polls close on election night, a new requirement that could delay results of the presidential race.

County election directors universally opposed the eleventh-hour counting mandate, saying it would undermine voter confidence in the election results. They said results will come in more slowly, ballot box seals would be broken and manual counts could be inaccurate.

[taiwan_girl]

I think that for very very repetitive tasks, humans are not very good. Minds have a tendency to wander etc.

I am not sure how exactly hand counting would be done, but not sure it would be more accurate than machine counting.

[LuFins Dad]

@taiwan_girl said in Election Integrity, the Georgia approach:

I think that for very very repetitive tasks, humans are not very good. Minds have a tendency to wander etc.

I am not sure how exactly hand counting would be done, but not sure it would be more accurate than machine counting.

I tend to agree. It’s mostly a distrust of the machines that’s driving it. I would run a machine count with poll watchers being allowed to run sample verifications.

[taiwan_girl]

@LuFins-Dad said in Election Integrity, the Georgia approach:

I tend to agree. It’s mostly a distrust of the machines that’s driving it. I would run a machine count with poll watchers being allowed to run sample verifications.

That would make sense. Maybe do hand count of X% of the total. If the hand count results are within statistics of the machine vote, nothing further needs to be done.

[Jolly]

Again, it's massive distrust of the system.

Jon can squall all he wishes, but massive distrust of the voting system often leads to serious consequences.

So why not make the system as trustworthy as possible?

[LuFins Dad]

@Jolly said in Election Integrity, the Georgia approach:

Again, it's massive distrust of the system.

Jon can squall all he wishes, but massive distrust of the voting system often leads to serious consequences.

So why not make the system as trustworthy as possible?

I don’t disagree, but hand counting is less trustworthy.

[Jolly]

@LuFins-Dad said in Election Integrity, the Georgia approach:

@Jolly said in Election Integrity, the Georgia approach:

Again, it's massive distrust of the system.

Jon can squall all he wishes, but massive distrust of the voting system often leads to serious consequences.

So why not make the system as trustworthy as possible?

I don’t disagree, but hand counting is less trustworthy.

I don't think it has to be hand counted. As you said, run known samples before counting in the presence of observers. Have agreed upon rules on what constitutes a valid ballot mark, before counting.

[Axtremus]

@Jolly said in Election Integrity, the Georgia approach:

Again, it's massive distrust of the system.

1. Why is there massive distrust of the system?

2. Will hand-counting the ballots restore trust of the system?

[taiwan_girl]

The Georgia Supreme Court has declined to reinstate an array of rules approved this year by a pro-Trump majority of the state’s election board that a lower court judge had tossed last week after calling them unconstitutional and void. The decision all but ensures that the rules will not be in effect for the November vote.

At issue were more than a half-dozen new rules, including one that would have mandated the hand-counting of ballots, which critics feared would delay certification of the election.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/10/22/georgia-supreme-court-declines-reinstate-trump-allied-boards-election-rules/