Pets For Dinner
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Though the Trump comment had legs. We're still talking about Springfield 20 days down the line.
Wonder if the situation in Springfield actually penetrated the national conscience?
@Jolly said in Pets For Dinner:
Wonder if the situation in Springfield actually penetrated the national conscience?
The lion's share of public attention continues to be devoted to laughing at how dumb the Magats are to believe the pet eating stories. Added to this mix is performative concern for how the Haitians are being hated now due to those racist memes.
But alongside all that, one would hope is more attention to the actual issues involved here, which seem pretty complicated.
If the reporting LD linked to gets widely discussed, it will turn into an anti-capitalism talking point, even if that's not the intention of the reporter.
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All I know is putting Haitians in slavelike conditions has NEVER turned out well.
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That metal shop owner might end up being branded as a modern slave holder. That would be a shame.
When he was making those remarks about how awesome his Haitian workers were, he probably felt confident that he was self-identifying as an inclusive, progressive person.
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Gosh darn
Haitianswhite US males!!!!A 64-year-old white man in Springfield, Ohio, was accused of illegally hunting geese at a golf course pond
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Gosh darn
Haitianswhite US males!!!!A 64-year-old white man in Springfield, Ohio, was accused of illegally hunting geese at a golf course pond
@taiwan_girl said in Pets For Dinner:
Gosh darn
Haitianswhite US males!!!!A 64-year-old white man in Springfield, Ohio, was accused of illegally hunting geese at a golf course pond
Canada Geese are flying rats.
Though killing them is illegal, I celebrate the demise of every single one.
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Gosh darn
Haitianswhite US males!!!!A 64-year-old white man in Springfield, Ohio, was accused of illegally hunting geese at a golf course pond
@taiwan_girl said in Pets For Dinner:
Gosh darn
Haitianswhite US males!!!!A 64-year-old white man in Springfield, Ohio, was accused of illegally hunting geese at a golf course pond
And you don’t see the problem with it, do you?
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Let me give you a hint, the Haitians with geese/ducks HAS been documented and not really cared about, even though it is illegal.
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I know someone, I dare not name who that is, who had a Canada Geese problem at his vacation home in a nearby state. They shit all over the pool deck, intimidated his 4 daughters and were aggressive about anyone walking on their turf.
Said person, and I am implicating no one, purchased a CO2 powered BB gun to ... discourage the geese from nesting and hanging out around his pool. Though none of the geese were injured, the "plonk" of a BB hitting one of the flying rats was a strong disincentive for them to move to a different location.
Not naming names...
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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The guy was absolutely correct to be arrested and charged. The problem is that the migrants (and yes, they are doing this) aren’t. They aren’t being charged for driving cars with no or expired tags. No safety inspections. They aren’t being charged for public drunkenness unless it’s egregious, or smaller scale fights, or any of a large number of misdemeanors.
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They aren’t being charged for driving cars with no or expired tags. No safety inspections. They aren’t being charged for public drunkenness unless it’s egregious, or smaller scale fights, or any of a large number of misdemeanors.
In the US would not all of those infractions listed fall under State level enforcement and jurisdiction? If that’s the case the problem lies with the State Administration not Federal authorities.
Other than fisticuffs involving assault and battery charges all what you have listed here come under the purview of provincial statutes. In the case of the geese and ducks being harvested though additional federal charges might be applied under the Migratory Birds Act. In any event all the items would be enforced and prosecuted under provincial authority.
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They aren’t being charged for driving cars with no or expired tags. No safety inspections. They aren’t being charged for public drunkenness unless it’s egregious, or smaller scale fights, or any of a large number of misdemeanors.
In the US would not all of those infractions listed fall under State level enforcement and jurisdiction? If that’s the case the problem lies with the State Administration not Federal authorities.
Other than fisticuffs involving assault and battery charges all what you have listed here come under the purview of provincial statutes. In the case of the geese and ducks being harvested though additional federal charges might be applied under the Migratory Birds Act. In any event all the items would be enforced and prosecuted under provincial authority.
@Renauda said in Pets For Dinner:
They aren’t being charged for driving cars with no or expired tags. No safety inspections. They aren’t being charged for public drunkenness unless it’s egregious, or smaller scale fights, or any of a large number of misdemeanors.
In the US would not all of those infractions listed fall under State level enforcement and jurisdiction? If that’s the case the problem lies with the State Administration not Federal authorities.
Other than fisticuffs involving assault and battery charges all what you have listed here come under the purview of provincial statutes. In the case of the geese and ducks being harvested though additional federal charges might be applied under the Migratory Birds Act. In any event all the items would be enforced and prosecuted under provincial authority.
Yep. Dollars spent go further on a local level.
Ongoing conversation with an old HS friend that’s a cop in Charleroi. Word from his bosses is that they don’t want migrants getting arrested for petty crap. It’s couched under a veneer of being compassionate and understanding of cultural differences, yada yada yada… But what’s generally understood is that 2 misdemeanors gets your TPS status revoked. According to him, if the guys on the street were allowed to do their jobs and they started policing these guys, and the Commonwealth’s Attorney actually prosecuted, that the entire migrant community would lose their TPS status. If that happens, all kinds of hell breaks loose. The chances that ICE comes in to remove these guys after their convictions are 0. So now you have 2000 people that don’t have legal status there and they truly are illegal. Living there illegally leads to worse crimes being committed and things go downhill fast.
On top of that, you would have groups like CASA and such coming after the police in the courtroom crying racism and inequitable enforcement of the law. Even if the Department wins in the courts, they still lose. The borough doesn’t have the type of money to defend itself from the avalanche of special interest groups. Plus, Wellington has most of the town officials in their pocket to avoid inspection of the habitats they are renting out as well as their general business practices.
It’s a real fucking mess. At the same time, the small police force is pissed that they can’t do their jobs. Pissed cops means trouble for somebody, and since they have to ignore the petty crimes in the migrant community, they take it out on the others.
A migrant’s car can be driving without a license plate and nothing happens. But that officer sees your inspection is past due? No chance that you just get a warning… It’s just making the situation worse.
The Brad
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So an interesting "only on TNCR" story: our old friend Apple told me that she once ate a cat. When she was a kid, Apple and her brother went out "hunting" with a bow and arrow. They shot and killed a cat. Her brother then came up with the dictum of "you gotta eat what you kill," so they went into the woods near their house and cooked the cat and ate at least some of it.
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@Renauda said in Pets For Dinner:
They aren’t being charged for driving cars with no or expired tags. No safety inspections. They aren’t being charged for public drunkenness unless it’s egregious, or smaller scale fights, or any of a large number of misdemeanors.
In the US would not all of those infractions listed fall under State level enforcement and jurisdiction? If that’s the case the problem lies with the State Administration not Federal authorities.
Other than fisticuffs involving assault and battery charges all what you have listed here come under the purview of provincial statutes. In the case of the geese and ducks being harvested though additional federal charges might be applied under the Migratory Birds Act. In any event all the items would be enforced and prosecuted under provincial authority.
Yep. Dollars spent go further on a local level.
Ongoing conversation with an old HS friend that’s a cop in Charleroi. Word from his bosses is that they don’t want migrants getting arrested for petty crap. It’s couched under a veneer of being compassionate and understanding of cultural differences, yada yada yada… But what’s generally understood is that 2 misdemeanors gets your TPS status revoked. According to him, if the guys on the street were allowed to do their jobs and they started policing these guys, and the Commonwealth’s Attorney actually prosecuted, that the entire migrant community would lose their TPS status. If that happens, all kinds of hell breaks loose. The chances that ICE comes in to remove these guys after their convictions are 0. So now you have 2000 people that don’t have legal status there and they truly are illegal. Living there illegally leads to worse crimes being committed and things go downhill fast.
On top of that, you would have groups like CASA and such coming after the police in the courtroom crying racism and inequitable enforcement of the law. Even if the Department wins in the courts, they still lose. The borough doesn’t have the type of money to defend itself from the avalanche of special interest groups. Plus, Wellington has most of the town officials in their pocket to avoid inspection of the habitats they are renting out as well as their general business practices.
It’s a real fucking mess. At the same time, the small police force is pissed that they can’t do their jobs. Pissed cops means trouble for somebody, and since they have to ignore the petty crimes in the migrant community, they take it out on the others.
A migrant’s car can be driving without a license plate and nothing happens. But that officer sees your inspection is past due? No chance that you just get a warning… It’s just making the situation worse.
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@Renauda said in Pets For Dinner:
It’s a real fucking mess….
An understatement.
And at the heart of it you have these Haitians that are basically in indentured servitude. These employment agencies charge them them a fortune to get their TPS status approved, then put them in Blech level jobs making what is minimum wage in most states, then take $3 off the top as their fee, then take another $2 per hour to go towards their TPS documentation fee. Another $1 to cover FICA, and pay these guys $9 an hour. But wait! There’s more. The guys are charged $250 per bed in a run down dilapidated house that’s overcrowded, and another $35 per week for transport to work. Oh, and $400 per month for mandatory insurance… the guys are left with enough money for food, some beer, and maybe a bag of marijuana. You can see where this goes…
