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    George K
    wrote on 3 Oct 2024, 11:51 last edited by
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    https://www.nysun.com/article/released-hostages-slammed-with-unexpected-irs-bills-and-late-fees

    Imagine being held hostage in a foreign land and returning home to America after release only to find the Internal Revenue Service has billed you for thousands of dollars in unpaid taxes, along with late fees, interest, and penalties.

    That was the startling reality encountered recently by former hostages Evan Gerhskovich, Paul Whelan, and Vladimir Kara-Murza, who were released from detention in Russia in August, Reason reports. The men reported facing a slew of financial issues upon their return, including tax charges and credit hits resulting from bills they were unable to pay while imprisoned.

    “I got one of those bills from the IRS saying, you owe this much on this year, you owe this much on this year because of failure to pay on time — here’s the interest that’s accrued,” a former hostage who is a Washington Post reporter, Jason Rezaian, told NPR. Mr. Rezaian faced more than $6,000 in fees for unpaid taxes following his release after 544 days of detention in Iran. “This is an oversight that nobody really thought about.”

    According to NPR, there are currently between 40 and 60 American nationals illegally detained by other nations. Many will likely return to America only to be met with surprising financial penalties tied to their unjust imprisonment.

    The IRS asserts that it lacks the legal authority to waive tax fees for returning hostages. However, legislative changes could be on the horizon. Earlier this year, Senator Coons of Delaware introduced the Stop Tax Penalties on American Hostages Act, a bill that would mandate the IRS exempt hostages from tax liability during their detainment.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 3 Oct 2024, 11:57 last edited by
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      Kamala-lama-ding-dong must have forgotten to include the Hostage Tax Forgiveness in the Student Loan Forgiveness proposal.

      OTOH, there's a lot more students!

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on 3 Oct 2024, 16:32 last edited by
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        I would think/hope a phone call would solve this.

        I am sure the credit, taxes, etc are all automated and if someone misses a payment or taxes, it immediately sends out a notice.

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        • T taiwan_girl
          3 Oct 2024, 16:32

          I would think/hope a phone call would solve this.

          I am sure the credit, taxes, etc are all automated and if someone misses a payment or taxes, it immediately sends out a notice.

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          George K
          wrote on 3 Oct 2024, 16:33 last edited by
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          @taiwan_girl said in Back Taxes Owed:

          I would think/hope a phone call would solve this.

          You hope the IRS would solve this?

          The IRS asserts that it lacks the legal authority to waive tax fees for returning hostages.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 3 Oct 2024, 16:35 last edited by jon-nyc 10 Mar 2024, 16:36
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            This is not uncommon that some situation no one envisioned when the legislation was written forces an agency to act in a way that breeches common sense but the agency has no authority to selectively ignore the law.

            Our own bill I’ve been pushing is like this though to a less obvious extent.

            Hopefully congress will fix this.

            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              3 Oct 2024, 11:57

              Kamala-lama-ding-dong must have forgotten to include the Hostage Tax Forgiveness in the Student Loan Forgiveness proposal.

              OTOH, there's a lot more students!

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              Mik
              wrote on 3 Oct 2024, 16:40 last edited by
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              @Jolly said in Back Taxes Owed:

              Kamala-lama-ding-dong must have forgotten to include the Hostage Tax Forgiveness in the Student Loan Forgiveness proposal.

              OTOH, there's a lot more students!

              Hostages can’t vote until released.

              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 3 Oct 2024, 20:39 last edited by
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                Fixing this would reveal the rather blurry line between hostage and foreign prisoner.

                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  3 Oct 2024, 16:32

                  I would think/hope a phone call would solve this.

                  I am sure the credit, taxes, etc are all automated and if someone misses a payment or taxes, it immediately sends out a notice.

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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on 3 Oct 2024, 20:43 last edited by
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                  @taiwan_girl said in Back Taxes Owed:

                  I would think/hope a phone call would solve this.

                  After the IRS looks bad in national news. That's what it takes.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • A Aqua Letifer
                    3 Oct 2024, 20:43

                    @taiwan_girl said in Back Taxes Owed:

                    I would think/hope a phone call would solve this.

                    After the IRS looks bad in national news. That's what it takes.

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on 4 Oct 2024, 00:31 last edited by
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                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Back Taxes Owed:

                    @taiwan_girl said in Back Taxes Owed:

                    I would think/hope a phone call would solve this.

                    After the IRS looks bad in national news. That's what it takes.

                    Yup. Usually the case.

                    Governement organization (or company, etc.) treats a person bad. Nothing is done. Story gets on the news. Same organization or company suddenly is able to "solve" the problem.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 4 Oct 2024, 00:33 last edited by
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                      Well, their union does support Kamala-lama-ding-dong.

                      Perhaps she'll give them a buzz...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 4 Oct 2024, 00:49 last edited by
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                        I suspect they’re correct in saying the law doesn’t allow them to make unilateral exceptions to tax penalties except under prescribed circumstances.

                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 4 Oct 2024, 00:50 last edited by
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                          By the way, was Britney Griner a prisoner in a foreign land or a hostage?

                          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                            4 Oct 2024, 00:49

                            I suspect they’re correct in saying the law doesn’t allow them to make unilateral exceptions to tax penalties except under prescribed circumstances.

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                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on 4 Oct 2024, 01:36 last edited by
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                            @jon-nyc said in Back Taxes Owed:

                            I suspect they’re correct in saying the law doesn’t allow them to make unilateral exceptions to tax penalties except under prescribed circumstances.

                            That doesn't exempt them from doing it.

                            Please love yourself.

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on 4 Oct 2024, 02:24 last edited by
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                              You want government agencies to follow the law or do you want government agencies to not follow the law?

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