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Gutfeld! tonight...

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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    @Jolly said in Gutfeld! tonight...:

    Address the essential point - Does Singapore's intolerance for fentanyl dealers decrease the levels of fentanyl OD deaths and if so, is that policy exportable to the U.S. in any form or fashion?

    Well, in general the death penalty hasn't been shown to reduce crime, so I'd guess probably not.

    Could you address whether you think a move towards being more like the Singapore government in general is something you would welcome?

    It's also worth noting that there are a lot of countries with lower drug overdose deaths who don't have the death penalty or highly authoritarian governments. Maybe it would be worth examining what they do differently. Obviously, that's not going to get the Trump faithful cheering much, but it might be a more measured approach....

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    @Doctor-Phibes

    It's also worth noting that there are a lot of countries with lower drug overdose deaths who don't have the death penalty or highly authoritarian governments.

    As near as I can tell overdose deaths from opioids in this godless authoritarian socialist hell is somewhere in the vicinity of 20/100,000. It varies though throughout the country with the highest instances in Vancouver, Ontario and, Alberta (the last being the evangelical Bible belt of the nation, no less!).

    Elbows up!

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Gutfeld! tonight...:

      @Jolly said in Gutfeld! tonight...:

      Address the essential point - Does Singapore's intolerance for fentanyl dealers decrease the levels of fentanyl OD deaths and if so, is that policy exportable to the U.S. in any form or fashion?

      Well, in general the death penalty hasn't been shown to reduce crime, so I'd guess probably not.

      Could you address whether you think a move towards being more like the Singapore government in general is something you would welcome?

      It's also worth noting that there are a lot of countries with lower drug overdose deaths who don't have the death penalty or highly authoritarian governments. Maybe it would be worth examining what they do differently. Obviously, that's not going to get the Trump faithful cheering much, but it might be a more measured approach....

      Biased much?😄

      When Trump was talking about this, he cited Singapore and China, both who have the death penalty for drug dealers. He also said that was something that might not could be done in America, but he rolled the conversation into the border and gang related (he specifically mentioned MS 13) organized trafficking.

      Do I support the death penalty for foreign nationals engaged in major drug or human traficking? I have no problem with that and would support it.

      Do I support tightening up our borders, particularly our Southern Border? Again, I think it's something we should do.

      Do I support rigorous deportation or imprisonment of illegal aliens with extensive criminal records? Yep.

      All this is of one piece. Control the flow across the border. Incarcerate and/or deport the distribution system. Decapitate anything in management. Permanently.

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      @Jolly said in Gutfeld! tonight...:

      Biased much?

      Right, I'm easily the most biased person in this thread.

      I was only joking

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        #29

        Online Unconscious Bias Training

        Education is extremely important.

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        • HoraceH Horace

          Online Unconscious Bias Training

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          @Horace said in Gutfeld! tonight...:

          Online Unconscious Bias Training

          I have completed a number of such courses as part of my enormously important job, and am subsequently completely free of bias.

          I was only joking

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            I think we’ve all learned a valuable lesson here today.

            Education is extremely important.

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              Down with biasism.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Jolly
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                #33

                Newsflash...The show drew 4.9M viewers.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  I wonder how many watched the Oprah-Harris show.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    @Renauda said in Gutfeld! tonight...:

                    Singapore is also small state and a wholly separate different non Western culture in almost all respects. I do not believe a meaningful correlation of overdose rates between it and the US can be made.

                    I also see the death penalty as a final retribution rather than a deterrent. I really don’t think for a moment the criminal mind takes consequences into account prior to acting.

                    I agree with REnauda.

                    But, another comparison we could make:

                    Singpapore has a firearm death rate/100,000 people = 0.01. US = 12.21

                    Singapore also has very very strict gun control laws compared to the US. Maybe the US should learn and adopt from that also? LOL

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                    @taiwan_girl said in Gutfeld! tonight...:

                    Singpapore has a firearm death rate/100,000 people = 0.01. US = 12.21

                    We have more freedom, more liberty.

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      @taiwan_girl said in Gutfeld! tonight...:

                      Singpapore has a firearm death rate/100,000 people = 0.01. US = 12.21

                      We have more freedom, more liberty.

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                      George K
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                      @Axtremus said in Gutfeld! tonight...:

                      We have more freedom, more liberty.

                      I'll stop chewing gum when you pry that wad out of my cold dead mouth.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        I wonder how many watched the Oprah-Harris show.

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                        @Horace said in Gutfeld! tonight...:

                        I wonder how many watched the Oprah-Harris show.

                        From Variety:

                        Other celebrities on screen included Bryan Cranston, Chris Rock, Ben Stiller, Tracee Ellis Ross, Jennifer Lopez and Julia Roberts. Approximately 300,000 viewers watched on the Harris campaign’s YouTube channel.

                        As of this moment, 1.8M views.

                        Trump has 1M views of the Gutfeld! show on his channel. FOX has another 4.2M YT views on different excepts from the show.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • George KG George K

                          @Axtremus said in Gutfeld! tonight...:

                          We have more freedom, more liberty.

                          I'll stop chewing gum when you pry that wad out of my cold dead mouth.

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                          @George-K said in Gutfeld! tonight...:

                          I'll stop chewing gum when you pry that wad out of my cold dead mouth.

                          To be picky, chewing gum is not illegal in Singapore. It is the sale and import of chewing gum. 555

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