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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    The thing about ‘illegal aliens are voting in large numbers to steal the election’ is it’s not even an empirical question, really. You can disprove it in your head.

    Unless you’ve eaten too much necrotic flesh.

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    @jon-nyc said in The scene in Fairfax County:

    The thing about ‘illegal aliens are voting in large numbers to steal the election’ is it’s not even an empirical question, really. You can disprove it in your head.

    Unless you’ve eaten too much necrotic flesh.

    See, you’re looking at for one giant manipulation. That’s not what those that are pushing for election security are overly concerned about. We’re much more concerned about the thumb on the scale here and there. A thumb on the scale here and there would have or may have made all the difference in the last two presidential elections.

    I think that all Americans can agree that elections should be as open and as secure as possible. We also agree that it should be as simple and accommodating as possible. We just disagree on where the fine line lies between accommodation and security.

    I personally believe that a state issued DL or Real ID showing identity and residence is not an onerous responsibility for voting. It’s a requirement in most western democracies. The lack of such a simple and reasonable precaution, and the emphatic opposition to it raises my suspicions. So if I can’t have Real ID, then I want the next best thing…
    Passport or Birth Certificate. It’s actually less identification than is necessary to get a job or cash a check, but now you turn that down? Trust levels really start to drop…

    I’ll be blunt. Trust in officials and authority is nonexistent in this election. The last 4 years had completely killed what little trust there was. And I’m not just talking about the 2020 election. I’m talking about COVID. 14 Days…It came from a wet market pangolin, not a lab… The vaccine will prevent infection… The laptop was fake. The Steele Dossier… Natural Immunity isn’t effective. The entire FBI…There is no trust remaining in a very large segment of people. So this election better be the most fucking open, honest, and secure election we have ever seen. If that means asking people to bring their fricking passport or birth certificate and for little actual gain other than helping people feel a little more secure, then do it. A little inconvenience is worth building some kind of trust.

    The Brad

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      That’s good to know. Thanks for looking it up! I didn’t have time as I was making sure my passport’s ready for November.

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      @LuFins-Dad said in The scene in Fairfax County:

      That’s good to know. Thanks for looking it up! I didn’t have time as I was making sure my passport’s ready for November.

      You’re moving to Canada?

      I was only joking

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        jon-nyc
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        #26

        A thumb on the scale here and there would have or may have made all the difference in the last two presidential elections.

        See my last example. That ‘thumb’ that might have made a difference would be 15-60k votes per swing state.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          A thumb on the scale here and there would have or may have made all the difference in the last two presidential elections.

          See my last example. That ‘thumb’ that might have made a difference would be 15-60k votes per swing state.

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          @jon-nyc said in The scene in Fairfax County:

          A thumb on the scale here and there would have or may have made all the difference in the last two presidential elections.

          See my last example. That ‘thumb’ that might have made a difference would be 15-60k votes per swing state.

          Actually, 44,000 votes change over three states in 2020, and Joe Biden is not President.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Jolly
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            This year, 0.008% of the electorate will probably determine the winner.

            So, why do the Dems fight tooth and nail to not have free and fair elections?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @jon-nyc said in The scene in Fairfax County:

              A thumb on the scale here and there would have or may have made all the difference in the last two presidential elections.

              See my last example. That ‘thumb’ that might have made a difference would be 15-60k votes per swing state.

              Actually, 44,000 votes change over three states in 2020, and Joe Biden is not President.

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              @Jolly said in The scene in Fairfax County:

              Actually, 44,000 votes change over three states in 2020, and Joe Biden is not President.

              Or just one vote from the VP.

              Or something like that.

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                This year, 0.008% of the electorate will probably determine the winner.

                So, why do the Dems fight tooth and nail to not have free and fair elections?

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                @Jolly said in The scene in Fairfax County😆

                So, why do the Reps fight tooth and nail to invent absurd stories about literal armies of illegal aliens voting in order to implement measures which would have the (intended) effect of stopping perhaps hundreds of thousands of legal voters from voting in free and fair elections?

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  LuFins Dad
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                  Why would showing a birth certificate keep somebody from voting? You need to show it to get a job or open a bank account..

                  Tell you what, we’ll drop the citizenship evidence if you’ll give us photo IDs. Hell, I’ll even toss in having the ID’s be free for needy individuals.

                  The Brad

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    Why would showing a birth certificate keep somebody from voting? You need to show it to get a job or open a bank account..

                    Tell you what, we’ll drop the citizenship evidence if you’ll give us photo IDs. Hell, I’ll even toss in having the ID’s be free for needy individuals.

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                    @LuFins-Dad said in The scene in Fairfax County:

                    Why would showing a birth certificate keep somebody from voting? You need to show it to get a job or open a bank account..

                    Tell you what, we’ll drop the citizenship evidence if you’ll give us photo IDs. Hell, I’ll even toss in having the ID’s be free for needy individuals.

                    Some Real ID stuff:

                    https://la.accessgov.com/real-id/Forms/Page/real-id/louie/0

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      @jon-nyc I’ll be blunt, I highly doubt that illegals are voting in any kind of numbers to effect the election. While I would still be very suspect that the actual poll workers are handing out the correct ballot in liberal areas, the fact remains that they are all liberal areas, and the illegals likely would not affect the outcome.

                      That being said, the Dems have got to show some signs about concern over election integrity. The anger in flyover land is very real, and trust is nonexistent.

                      The Brad

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                        By the way, does not reporting on the laptop or calling it misinformation count as a thumb on the scale? Would a WaPo expose on the corruption indicated in Hunter’s laptop have discouraged .5% of Biden’s voters in PA? .05% in AZ? Then Trump would be President and we’d be arguing over Pence vs Gel Boy right now. Maybe DeSantis…

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          By the way, does not reporting on the laptop or calling it misinformation count as a thumb on the scale? Would a WaPo expose on the corruption indicated in Hunter’s laptop have discouraged .5% of Biden’s voters in PA? .05% in AZ? Then Trump would be President and we’d be arguing over Pence vs Gel Boy right now. Maybe DeSantis…

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                          @LuFins-Dad said in The scene in Fairfax County:

                          By the way, does not reporting on the laptop or calling it misinformation count as a thumb on the scale? Would a WaPo expose on the corruption indicated in Hunter’s laptop have discouraged .5% of Biden’s voters in PA? .05% in AZ? Then Trump would be President and we’d be arguing over Pence vs Gel Boy right now. Maybe DeSantis…

                          Is the FBI releasing a report on a potential upcoming investigation on Hilary Clinton emails a week before the 2016 election count? Did that affect X% of the population?

                          If it did, maybe President Trump would just be an almost forgotten past story along with other candidates who did not win the President.

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                          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                            @LuFins-Dad said in The scene in Fairfax County:

                            By the way, does not reporting on the laptop or calling it misinformation count as a thumb on the scale? Would a WaPo expose on the corruption indicated in Hunter’s laptop have discouraged .5% of Biden’s voters in PA? .05% in AZ? Then Trump would be President and we’d be arguing over Pence vs Gel Boy right now. Maybe DeSantis…

                            Is the FBI releasing a report on a potential upcoming investigation on Hilary Clinton emails a week before the 2016 election count? Did that affect X% of the population?

                            If it did, maybe President Trump would just be an almost forgotten past story along with other candidates who did not win the President.

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                            @taiwan_girl said in The scene in Fairfax County:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in The scene in Fairfax County:

                            By the way, does not reporting on the laptop or calling it misinformation count as a thumb on the scale? Would a WaPo expose on the corruption indicated in Hunter’s laptop have discouraged .5% of Biden’s voters in PA? .05% in AZ? Then Trump would be President and we’d be arguing over Pence vs Gel Boy right now. Maybe DeSantis…

                            Is the FBI releasing a report on a potential upcoming investigation on Hilary Clinton emails a week before the 2016 election count? Did that affect X% of the population?

                            If it did, maybe President Trump would just be an almost forgotten past story along with other candidates who did not win the President.

                            No, Hillary should have been charged. Her crime far exceeds anything Trump has been accused of ...

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @taiwan_girl said in The scene in Fairfax County:

                              @LuFins-Dad said in The scene in Fairfax County:

                              By the way, does not reporting on the laptop or calling it misinformation count as a thumb on the scale? Would a WaPo expose on the corruption indicated in Hunter’s laptop have discouraged .5% of Biden’s voters in PA? .05% in AZ? Then Trump would be President and we’d be arguing over Pence vs Gel Boy right now. Maybe DeSantis…

                              Is the FBI releasing a report on a potential upcoming investigation on Hilary Clinton emails a week before the 2016 election count? Did that affect X% of the population?

                              If it did, maybe President Trump would just be an almost forgotten past story along with other candidates who did not win the President.

                              No, Hillary should have been charged. Her crime far exceeds anything Trump has been accused of ...

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                              @Jolly said in The scene in Fairfax County:

                              No,

                              Do you mean, "No, the report had not effect on people voting pattern?"

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