Gutfeld! tonight...

[Jolly]

Special guest?

Donald J. Trump.

[Jolly]

Anybody watch besides me?

[George K]

@Jolly said in Gutfeld! tonight...:

Anybody watch besides me?

Nope. By mid-week, my Trump quota had already been filled just by watching the news.

[Jolly]

Some of it...

Link to video

In amongst the yuks - Gutfeld! Is entertaiment, not hard news - Trump made some political points. And advanced a few things I hadn't heard. For instance, on the fentanyl problem. Trump came out in favor of the death penalty for major fentanyl dealers.

[taiwan_girl]

@Jolly said in Gutfeld! tonight...:

Trump came out in favor of the death penalty for major fentanyl dealers.

I believe that the death penalty should exist, but not because it "deters" criminals. It doesn't.

Some people deserve it, but to think that the death penalty makes criminals think before doing a crime is not true, I dont think.

[Horace]

Actually, the death penalty in America is a good way to become a celebrity of sorts.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said in Gutfeld! tonight...:

Actually, the death penalty in America is a good way to become a celebrity of sorts.

Another good way to become a celebrity if you don't mind causing irreparable societal damage is to host a reality TV show.

[Jolly]

He was offered a five year contract extension by NBC. He turned it down to run for President.

[Jolly]

@taiwan_girl said in Gutfeld! tonight...:

@Jolly said in Gutfeld! tonight...:

Trump came out in favor of the death penalty for major fentanyl dealers.

I believe that the death penalty should exist, but not because it "deters" criminals. It doesn't.

Some people deserve it, but to think that the death penalty makes criminals think before doing a crime is not true, I dont think.

Does it deter dealers in Singapore?

[Mik]

I suspect it does. I'm by and large opposed, but I might could be persuaded for predators like this who care only about the money and not the havoc they wreak. Same for scammers who prey on the elderly. Parasites.

[Mik]

Still, I can't help but wonder if we don't know the folks in China and Mexico who are making the trade possible. Perhaps we should send them some pagers.

[Jolly]

You'll have to catch Trump's comments on Singapore and China.

[taiwan_girl]

@Jolly said in Gutfeld! tonight...:

Does it deter dealers in Singapore?

On the entry visa you used to fill out, in big bold high font red letters was something like, "Possession of Drugs may be punished by death"

Yet, I would still see in the papers or hear on the news that so and so was caught with drugs.

Of course, it is impossible to prove the "opportunity cost" - if they didn't have this policy, would there be more drug dealing in Singapore, etc?

So, I guess that the answer is from me, "I dont know". LOL

There are always going to be stupid people doing stupid things. The fear of going to jail is enough to stop me from (mostly) doing stupid things, but it is not the same for everybody.

I haven't looked, but I am guess that if we looked at states with death vs. no death for those appropriate crimes, there is probably not any difference.

[Jolly]

@taiwan_girl said in Gutfeld! tonight...:

So, I guess that the answer is from me, "I dont know". LOL

I do.

Singapore has a drug overdose rate of 1.18/100,000 people. The U.S. rate is 32/100,000 people.

[Renauda]

Singapore is also small state and a wholly different non Western culture in almost all respects. I do not believe a meaningful correlation of overdose rates between it and the US can be made.

I also see the death penalty as a final retribution rather than a deterrent. I really don’t think for a moment the criminal mind takes consequences into account prior to acting.

Half of me is against capital punishment and the other half is lukewarm supportive owing to emotional reaction rather than reason. Laws, in my opinion, should reflect reason not passion.

[Axtremus]

@Jolly said in Gutfeld! tonight...:

Singapore has a drug overdose rate of 1.18/100,000 people. The U.S. rate is 32/100,000 people.

We have more freedom, more liberty.

[George K]

@Axtremus said in Gutfeld! tonight...:

We have more freedom, more liberty.

Yes, we can chew gum.

[Jolly]

@Axtremus said in Gutfeld! tonight...:

@Jolly said in Gutfeld! tonight...:

Singapore has a drug overdose rate of 1.18/100,000 people. The U.S. rate is 32/100,000 people.

We have more freedom, more liberty.

To do fentanyl?

[taiwan_girl]

@Renauda said in Gutfeld! tonight...:

Singapore is also small state and a wholly separate different non Western culture in almost all respects. I do not believe a meaningful correlation of overdose rates between it and the US can be made.

I also see the death penalty as a final retribution rather than a deterrent. I really don’t think for a moment the criminal mind takes consequences into account prior to acting.

I agree with REnauda.

But, another comparison we could make:

Singpapore has a firearm death rate/100,000 people = 0.01. US = 12.21

Singapore also has very very strict gun control laws compared to the US. Maybe the US should learn and adopt from that also? LOL

[Jolly]

@taiwan_girl said in Gutfeld! tonight...:

@Renauda said in Gutfeld! tonight...:

Singapore is also small state and a wholly separate different non Western culture in almost all respects. I do not believe a meaningful correlation of overdose rates between it and the US can be made.

I also see the death penalty as a final retribution rather than a deterrent. I really don’t think for a moment the criminal mind takes consequences into account prior to acting.

I agree with REnauda.

But, another comparison we could make:

Singpapore has a firearm death rate/100,000 people = 0.01. US = 12.21

Singapore also has very very strict gun control laws compared to the US. Maybe the US should learn and adopt from that also? LOL

Sorry, but the Second Amendment exists and the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed.

Now, Kamala -lama-ding-dong has supported walking into your home without a warrant, to ensure your gun is properly stored. Whatever that is...