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We're Going To Rock Down To.................... Electric Avenue

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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 00:55 last edited by
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    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1488zz8jnzo

    Former US President Donald Trump has been found liable to pay damages to London singer and songwriter Eddy Grant for using his song Electric Avenue without permission.
    It has taken Mr Grant, 76, more than four years to sue the Republican candidate in this year’s presidential election in the US courts, over his 2020 campaign video that used a 40-second clip of the song.
    The video was viewed 13.7 million times before Twitter, now known as X, took it down.

    Link to video

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      Jolly
      wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 01:02 last edited by
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      Personally, I think as long as royalties are paid, there is no such thing as permission

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 01:08 last edited by
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        I think that there should be permission. An artist (singer, songwriter, arthur, artist, etc.) should have some control over their material.

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          16 Sept 2024, 01:08

          I think that there should be permission. An artist (singer, songwriter, arthur, artist, etc.) should have some control over their material.

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          George K
          wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 01:13 last edited by
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          @taiwan_girl said in We're Going To Rock Down To.................... Electric Avenue:

          An artist (singer, songwriter, arthur, artist, etc.) should have some control over their material.

          Agreed.

          But when the artist has signed over rights to another party, that desire for control is irrelevant. Successful artists make millions of dollars by selling their "catalogs" to third parties.

          (I haven't read the story, by the way - because it's almost my bedtime and I'm watching the Emmys)

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Mik
            wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 01:42 last edited by
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            Give Eddy a break. He’s a one hit wonder and likely needs the money. Badly.

            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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              Jolly
              wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 01:55 last edited by Jolly
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              Caribbean Queen.

              Oops. Wrong artist...That was Billy Ocean...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                16 Sept 2024, 01:42

                Give Eddy a break. He’s a one hit wonder and likely needs the money. Badly.

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 02:06 last edited by
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                @Mik said in We're Going To Rock Down To.................... Electric Avenue:

                Give Eddy a break. He’s a one hit wonder

                Not so. He had two UK number ones, and had a million seller with an earlier band.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddy_Grant

                I was only joking

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 02:47 last edited by
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                  UK number ones don’t count.

                  But I do like ElectricAvenue. Good song.

                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                    16 Sept 2024, 01:02

                    Personally, I think as long as royalties are paid, there is no such thing as permission

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 10:48 last edited by
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                    @Jolly said in We're Going To Rock Down To.................... Electric Avenue:

                    Personally, I think as long as royalties are paid, there is no such thing as permission

                    Then set the royalties to $1T. It would be how permission is implemented.

                    Unless you’re thinking the government would set royalties.

                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                      16 Sept 2024, 10:48

                      @Jolly said in We're Going To Rock Down To.................... Electric Avenue:

                      Personally, I think as long as royalties are paid, there is no such thing as permission

                      Then set the royalties to $1T. It would be how permission is implemented.

                      Unless you’re thinking the government would set royalties.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 11:30 last edited by
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                      @jon-nyc said in We're Going To Rock Down To.................... Electric Avenue:

                      @Jolly said in We're Going To Rock Down To.................... Electric Avenue:

                      Personally, I think as long as royalties are paid, there is no such thing as permission

                      Then set the royalties to $1T. It would be how permission is implemented.

                      Unless you’re thinking the government would set royalties.

                      The royalties are usually set by who owns the catalog. I'm no music attorney, but I suspect older songs like we're talking about shouldn't be that expensive.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        16 Sept 2024, 11:30

                        @jon-nyc said in We're Going To Rock Down To.................... Electric Avenue:

                        @Jolly said in We're Going To Rock Down To.................... Electric Avenue:

                        Personally, I think as long as royalties are paid, there is no such thing as permission

                        Then set the royalties to $1T. It would be how permission is implemented.

                        Unless you’re thinking the government would set royalties.

                        The royalties are usually set by who owns the catalog. I'm no music attorney, but I suspect older songs like we're talking about shouldn't be that expensive.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 12:12 last edited by
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                        @Jolly said in We're Going To Rock Down To.................... Electric Avenue:

                        The royalties are usually set by who owns the catalog.

                        That's right. Didn't Michael Jackson own the Beatles' catalog for a while?

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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