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Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT

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  • MikM Offline
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    #94

    Brilliant.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      #95

      Speaking of brilliant, NR went back and pulled the questions asked of the candidates. It's illuminating...

      https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/trumps-biggest-problem-at-the-debate-was-trump/

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        #96

        And ... Thought Megan Kelly had the best take ..No Republican should ever do a debate with ABC again. Ever.

        She also thought the best debate would be pure adversarial. Let each candidate pick the moderator for the other candidate.

        For example, the moderators last night might have been Sean Hannity and Rachal Maddow (edit. Spell check changed Maddow).

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          And ... Thought Megan Kelly had the best take ..No Republican should ever do a debate with ABC again. Ever.

          She also thought the best debate would be pure adversarial. Let each candidate pick the moderator for the other candidate.

          For example, the moderators last night might have been Sean Hannity and Rachal Maddow (edit. Spell check changed Maddow).

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          @Jolly said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:

          For example, the moderators last night might have been Sean Hannity Adolf Hitler and Rachal Maddie Mother Teresa.

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            #98

            And speaking of eating Fluffy...

            Politics is perception. Whether the rumors are true or not, people believe the rumors are true!

            The people believe that because a city of 58,000 received 20,000 Haitians. It's a mess...You cannot dump that many people from a dissimilar culture into a community and expect any kind of assimilation.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • MikM Offline
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              #99

              I lived in that town for several years and you are right.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                #100

                Well, maybe some people changed their minds...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  #101

                  Final confirmation that he has lost all of his cognitive abilities.

                  I was only joking

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    #102

                    Sometimes Alzheimer's patients have remarkable flashes of lucidity.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      Sometimes Alzheimer's patients have remarkable flashes of lucidity.

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                      #103

                      @Jolly 😆

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • taiwan_girlT Online
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                        #104

                        Lindsey Graham assessment:

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            @Mik I get what you are saying, but the only real vote is in November. Is there any rule in the US that a party has to have a primary to nominate a president?

                            What would have happened if President Trump had been assassinated? Would Sen. Vance be the nominated?

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                              #107

                              It wasn't a disaster. Wasn't great, but not a disaster.

                              Debates are all about pictures and soundbites. Kamala had some lousy still pictures...The chin-prop on nothing, the weird expressions, the picture of Trump looming over her.

                              Soundbites? Think Trump won that one. The MAGA hat thing was funny and true, which tends to score. And in his summation, the question about why she hadn't done anything when she had years to do so.

                              After the debate, independents leaned a bit more towards Trump, mainly because of the economy. As best I know, the betting markets didn't show any shifts.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                It wasn't a disaster. Wasn't great, but not a disaster.

                                Debates are all about pictures and soundbites. Kamala had some lousy still pictures...The chin-prop on nothing, the weird expressions, the picture of Trump looming over her.

                                Soundbites? Think Trump won that one. The MAGA hat thing was funny and true, which tends to score. And in his summation, the question about why she hadn't done anything when she had years to do so.

                                After the debate, independents leaned a bit more towards Trump, mainly because of the economy. As best I know, the betting markets didn't show any shifts.

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                                @Jolly said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:

                                independents leaned a bit more towards Trump, mainly because of the economy

                                At least one poll showed that Trump gained ground on the economy after the debate. Don't know demos, etc....

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                  @Mik I get what you are saying, but the only real vote is in November. Is there any rule in the US that a party has to have a primary to nominate a president?

                                  What would have happened if President Trump had been assassinated? Would Sen. Vance be the nominated?

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                                  @taiwan_girl said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:

                                  @Mik I get what you are saying, but the only real vote is in November. Is there any rule in the US that a party has to have a primary to nominate a president?

                                  What would have happened if President Trump had been assassinated? Would Sen. Vance be the nominated?

                                  No one died, TG. The Dems knew damn good and well their candidate was mentally incompetent, prevented any primary challenge and only dropped him when it looked like they would lose. It’s the opposite of democracy. The legalities have nothing to do with the principles.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    @taiwan_girl said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:

                                    @Mik I get what you are saying, but the only real vote is in November. Is there any rule in the US that a party has to have a primary to nominate a president?

                                    What would have happened if President Trump had been assassinated? Would Sen. Vance be the nominated?

                                    No one died, TG. The Dems knew damn good and well their candidate was mentally incompetent, prevented any primary challenge and only dropped him when it looked like they would lose. It’s the opposite of democracy. The legalities have nothing to do with the principles.

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                                    @Mik said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:

                                    The Dems knew damn good and well their candidate was mentally incompetent, prevented any primary challenge and only dropped him when it looked like they would lose.

                                    President Biden was never a strong candidate. And I am sure that the Democrats knew this. If he was so weak a candidate months ago, what would be the benefit to not allowing a primary? They could have easily "persuaded" him to not run again months ago.

                                    Do all that just so eventually VP Harris could become nominated? That doesn't make sense. I am not sure that VP Harris was the strongest candidate that they had.

                                    If the plan was to replace President Biden with a stronger candidate, it seems like they were very poor in execution. Why would they want to go through all of this to nominate not there strongest candidate? And no, I dont think that VP Harris has so much power inside the Democrat party that she could arrange all this.

                                    If enough people feel that the Democrats did not play fairly, then they will not vote for her and President Trump will be elected.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      It’s fun to think what an own-goal Trump’s pet-eating rant was. It seems to have been invented in the last 24 hours with Vance a prime booster.

                                      Oh - and the casual lie here about all the calls his office is getting.

                                      I meant your pet goes missing and you suspect foul play. Who do you call? The cops? Or your Senator’s office?

                                      AxtremusA Away
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                                      Axtremus
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                                      @jon-nyc said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:

                                      I meant your pet goes missing and you suspect foul play. Who do you call? The cops? Or your Senator’s office?

                                      The Daily Show asks the same question:

                                      Link to video

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                                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                        @Mik I get what you are saying, but the only real vote is in November. Is there any rule in the US that a party has to have a primary to nominate a president?

                                        What would have happened if President Trump had been assassinated? Would Sen. Vance be the nominated?

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                                        LuFins Dad
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                                        @taiwan_girl said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:

                                        @Mik I get what you are saying, but the only real vote is in November. Is there any rule in the US that a party has to have a primary to nominate a president?

                                        What would have happened if President Trump had been assassinated? Would Sen. Vance be the nominated?

                                        No, Vance was not the VP nominee at that point.

                                        The point is not valid anyway, as there is quite a difference between the presumptive nominee being assassinated or the party deciding to push out the nominee because they thought he couldn’t win. This would. Actually, it would be more palatable if they forced him out of office via the 25th. Then they could claim incompetence, but they didn’t. So yeah, this is pretty egregious.

                                        But comeon, you and I were both saying over a year ago that they would let him be the nominee up until after the primaries, then they would switch him out with a handpicked successor candidate to avoid any chance of nominating an unwanted successor. This is exactly what they did, just 2 weeks earlier than we predicted.

                                        The Brad

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                                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                          @jon-nyc said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:

                                          I meant your pet goes missing and you suspect foul play. Who do you call? The cops? Or your Senator’s office?

                                          The Daily Show asks the same question:

                                          Link to video

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                                          @Axtremus said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:

                                          @jon-nyc said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:

                                          I meant your pet goes missing and you suspect foul play. Who do you call? The cops? Or your Senator’s office?

                                          The Daily Show asks the same question:

                                          Link to video

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