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Neckties at the convention.

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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    The knot is named after the infamous Nazi sympathizer the Duke of Windsor, formally Edward VIII, and as such should really be renamed The half-Hitler.

    If you think I'm exaggerating, take a look at this picture, where Edward is very clearly checking out Adolf's neck-tie....

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    @Doctor-Phibes said in Neckties at the convention.:

    The knot is named after the infamous Nazi sympathizer the Duke of Windsor, formally Edward VIII, and as such should really be renamed The half-Hitler.

    Thread:

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      The other advantage of a Windsor knot is that it uses up quite a bit of the material, meaning you don't walk around with the tie hanging down below your waist making you look slightly foolish.

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      @Doctor-Phibes said in Neckties at the convention.:

      The other advantage of a Windsor knot is that it uses up quite a bit of the material, meaning you don't walk around with the tie hanging down below your waist making you look slightly foolish.

      The other way to deal with that issue is to be tall. Or fat.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        #20

        I wear a tie maybe 20-30 times a year. Board meetings, Congress, FDA/NIH, or at scientific conferences, especially if I speak.

        Funny thing is that by the end of my time at Credit Suisse I almost never wore them. Now in non-profit I do.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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          When I had a real job, I wore the tie everyday. After around 2001 very few others wore one. When I left in 2006, I was still wearing one most days.

          A collar is required now on the golf course.

          But for the rest of the day, it is either a gray t-shirt or a dark-gray t-shirt.

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            I guess I’ll go to my grave without generating a strong opinion about tie knots. I’m wearing one tonight for a wedding though.

            Education is extremely important.

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              Horace
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              #23

              Mrs GK would have loved this meal. The meats were all but dehydrated.

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              Education is extremely important.

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                It does look like they put that meat on the pan during the Eisenhower administration.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  It does look like they put that meat on the pan during the Eisenhower administration.

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                  @jon-nyc said in Neckties at the convention.:

                  It does look like they put that meat on the pan during the Eisenhower administration.

                  Mrs. George would love it...

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @jon-nyc said in Neckties at the convention.:

                    It does look like they put that meat on the pan during the Eisenhower administration.

                    Mrs. George would love it...

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                    @George-K said in Neckties at the convention.:

                    @jon-nyc said in Neckties at the convention.:

                    It does look like they put that meat on the pan during the Eisenhower administration.

                    Mrs. George would love it...

                    For good reason

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                    • CopperC Copper

                      When I had a real job, I wore the tie everyday. After around 2001 very few others wore one. When I left in 2006, I was still wearing one most days.

                      A collar is required now on the golf course.

                      But for the rest of the day, it is either a gray t-shirt or a dark-gray t-shirt.

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                      @Copper said in Neckties at the convention.:

                      When I had a real job, I wore the tie everyday. After around 2001 very few others wore one. When I left in 2006, I was still wearing one most days.

                      When I was in consulting we wore ties until deep into the dot com era when it suddenly became uncool. Then when the bubble burst we all put our suits and ties back on. First the managing partner did, next day the rest of us did. There was never a memo about any of this.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                        The definitive history from the men’s wardrobe guy. Seriously more interesting that you’d think. Read the thread.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                          #29

                          I wear ties quite often and own quite a few. I use the four in hand knot mostly. Also, I've recently taken to buying ties from various museums. They have have reasonable pricing and interesting selections.

                          I just got this at the Getty Museum:

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                          and these at the Met in NYC:
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                            My dad taught me a full Windsor (I was wearing ties at 16 as a Kinney shoe salesman) but by early 20s I was tying a four-in-hand and never looked back. I couldn’t even tie a Windsor today without some internet guide.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                              Very rarely wear a tie these days, only for wedding/funeral/graduation events; but (@Tom-K) I'd buy that last orange tie with the ovals just because.

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                                A lifetime of ties, nearly all silk, because it knots neatly. Some jokes from my kids, my favourite gold with red teardrops Hugo Boss@Harrods, soon to be worn at a daughters wedding

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                                  ANDY! Great collection! As a fellow "man of wealth and taste" (a Rolling Stones reference-not to be taken literally,) I am in awe of your ties. Brilliant! (as you Britishers might say.) You and I are of a kindred spirit. I enlarged your ties and am looking them over. Wonderful. Great, great post. Thank you. I'll get my collection together and post in a bit. (For the discerning aficionados--not the unwashed, dirty necked, open collared masses that slither and lurk hereabouts!)

                                  The teardrop is spectacular. Also the "orange tie with ovals" tie I posted is from a Gustav Klimt picture. I also have something identical in teal.

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                                    😄 Looking forward to it.
                                    I found storing them tricky until someone bought me a ladies scarf hanger with multiple holes. Using that they all hang out together within a suit bag.

                                    It's really nice to occasionally dress up, go the whole 9 yards with cufflinks etc.

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                                      I’ve always had a tie hanger.

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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