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DC Policy Analyst: "We're All Yang Gang."

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    Jolly
    wrote on 28 Jul 2020, 12:16 last edited by Jolly
    #10

    Business models change to fit the reality of the market. Used to be a lot more farriers and coopers than there are now.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Mik
      wrote on 28 Jul 2020, 13:36 last edited by
      #11

      They're going to need a lot of people to design, build and maintain those robots. It's too good a revenue stream to forego. It will be similar to the rise of the auto industry

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        28 Jul 2020, 09:33

        Tell me what startups he created and what actual manufacturing he did.

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        Axtremus
        wrote on 28 Jul 2020, 13:41 last edited by
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        @LuFins-Dad said in DC Policy Analyst: "We're All Yang Gang.":

        Tell me what startups he created and what actual manufacturing he did.

        Just curious, @LuFins-Dad , have you done any “actual manufacturing” yourself?

        Suppose I say, a long time ago, I operated a computer in a garment factory that lays out patterns on fabric such that another team would later cut (in bulk) the fabric by tracing the pattern laid out by the computer, and the cut pieces then got stitched together to make garments ... let’s say I only operated the pattern layout computer and never touched any other tool or machinery, does that count as having done “actual manufacturing” in your book?

        What about, say, the corporate lawyer who takes care of legal matters for the garment factory but never touched any tool or machinery except the computers/typewriters? Does that lawyer count as having done “actual manufacturing” in your book?

        What about a merger and acquisition specialist who has never worked a day in any factory, but has worked two dozen deals buying and selling garment factories? If such a person were to opine on what he think the future for garment factory workers is, are you going to brush him off because he has never done any “actual manufacturing”?

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        • A Axtremus
          28 Jul 2020, 13:41

          @LuFins-Dad said in DC Policy Analyst: "We're All Yang Gang.":

          Tell me what startups he created and what actual manufacturing he did.

          Just curious, @LuFins-Dad , have you done any “actual manufacturing” yourself?

          Suppose I say, a long time ago, I operated a computer in a garment factory that lays out patterns on fabric such that another team would later cut (in bulk) the fabric by tracing the pattern laid out by the computer, and the cut pieces then got stitched together to make garments ... let’s say I only operated the pattern layout computer and never touched any other tool or machinery, does that count as having done “actual manufacturing” in your book?

          What about, say, the corporate lawyer who takes care of legal matters for the garment factory but never touched any tool or machinery except the computers/typewriters? Does that lawyer count as having done “actual manufacturing” in your book?

          What about a merger and acquisition specialist who has never worked a day in any factory, but has worked two dozen deals buying and selling garment factories? If such a person were to opine on what he think the future for garment factory workers is, are you going to brush him off because he has never done any “actual manufacturing”?

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on 28 Jul 2020, 14:11 last edited by
          #13

          @Axtremus said in DC Policy Analyst: "We're All Yang Gang.":

          Just curious, @LuFins-Dad , have you done any “actual manufacturing” yourself?

          LfD is not trying to make a name for himself by presenting himself as a manufacturing expert.

          Please love yourself.

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            Horace
            wrote on 28 Jul 2020, 14:26 last edited by
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            We could replace robots with cinder blocks, if only we could learn to harness the power of cinder block magic. And for that, we all just need to believe, with all of our hearts, in cinder block magic.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • A Aqua Letifer
              28 Jul 2020, 14:11

              @Axtremus said in DC Policy Analyst: "We're All Yang Gang.":

              Just curious, @LuFins-Dad , have you done any “actual manufacturing” yourself?

              LfD is not trying to make a name for himself by presenting himself as a manufacturing expert.

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 28 Jul 2020, 15:02 last edited by
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              @Aqua-Letifer said in DC Policy Analyst: "We're All Yang Gang.":

              @Axtremus said in DC Policy Analyst: "We're All Yang Gang.":

              Just curious, @LuFins-Dad , have you done any “actual manufacturing” yourself?

              LfD is not trying to make a name for himself by presenting himself as a manufacturing expert.

              Neither is Andrew Yang.

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              • A Axtremus
                28 Jul 2020, 13:41

                @LuFins-Dad said in DC Policy Analyst: "We're All Yang Gang.":

                Tell me what startups he created and what actual manufacturing he did.

                Just curious, @LuFins-Dad , have you done any “actual manufacturing” yourself?

                Suppose I say, a long time ago, I operated a computer in a garment factory that lays out patterns on fabric such that another team would later cut (in bulk) the fabric by tracing the pattern laid out by the computer, and the cut pieces then got stitched together to make garments ... let’s say I only operated the pattern layout computer and never touched any other tool or machinery, does that count as having done “actual manufacturing” in your book?

                What about, say, the corporate lawyer who takes care of legal matters for the garment factory but never touched any tool or machinery except the computers/typewriters? Does that lawyer count as having done “actual manufacturing” in your book?

                What about a merger and acquisition specialist who has never worked a day in any factory, but has worked two dozen deals buying and selling garment factories? If such a person were to opine on what he think the future for garment factory workers is, are you going to brush him off because he has never done any “actual manufacturing”?

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                Jolly
                wrote on 28 Jul 2020, 15:10 last edited by
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                @Axtremus said in DC Policy Analyst: "We're All Yang Gang.":

                @LuFins-Dad said in DC Policy Analyst: "We're All Yang Gang.":

                Tell me what startups he created and what actual manufacturing he did.

                Just curious, @LuFins-Dad , have you done any “actual manufacturing” yourself?

                Suppose I say, a long time ago, I operated a computer in a garment factory that lays out patterns on fabric such that another team would later cut (in bulk) the fabric by tracing the pattern laid out by the computer, and the cut pieces then got stitched together to make garments ... let’s say I only operated the pattern layout computer and never touched any other tool or machinery, does that count as having done “actual manufacturing” in your book?

                What about, say, the corporate lawyer who takes care of legal matters for the garment factory but never touched any tool or machinery except the computers/typewriters? Does that lawyer count as having done “actual manufacturing” in your book?

                What about a merger and acquisition specialist who has never worked a day in any factory, but has worked two dozen deals buying and selling garment factories? If such a person were to opine on what he think the future for garment factory workers is, are you going to brush him off because he has never done any “actual manufacturing”?

                Want to address the man's point or just dance about and save your hands in the air?

                Speaking of experience, what businesses have you created or run? Know anything about creating and running a single proprietorship, a LLC, or a S-class corporation? Inquiring minds would like to know. Have you ever even been successful in more than one job field?

                Tell us your expertise, Ax.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Catseye3
                  wrote on 28 Jul 2020, 15:24 last edited by
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                  He didn't have to have created/run businesses to make the points in his latest post. All that requires is a bit of observation and imagination, and common sense.

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 28 Jul 2020, 15:56 last edited by
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                    It would be nice to discuss the man’s ideas instead of his qualifications. George Washington had been pretty much of a failure militarily until placed in charge of the continental army.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • M Mik
                      28 Jul 2020, 15:56

                      It would be nice to discuss the man’s ideas instead of his qualifications. George Washington had been pretty much of a failure militarily until placed in charge of the continental army.

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                      Catseye3
                      wrote on 28 Jul 2020, 16:00 last edited by
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                      @Mik said in DC Policy Analyst: "We're All Yang Gang.":

                      It would be nice to discuss the man’s ideas instead of his qualifications.

                      I was referring to Ax in my post just above yours and not Yang, but yeah, come to think of it, that would apply to Yang also.

                      And yes! General Washington is about the best role model anyone could ask for.

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 28 Jul 2020, 16:01 last edited by
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                        I knew that. 😉

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 28 Jul 2020, 19:50 last edited by
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                          @Axtremus said in DC Policy Analyst: "We're All Yang Gang.":

                          @LuFins-Dad said in DC Policy Analyst: "We're All Yang Gang.":

                          Tell me what startups he created and what actual manufacturing he did.

                          Just curious, @LuFins-Dad , have you done any “actual manufacturing” yourself?

                          Suppose I say, a long time ago, I operated a computer in a garment factory that lays out patterns on fabric such that another team would later cut (in bulk) the fabric by tracing the pattern laid out by the computer, and the cut pieces then got stitched together to make garments ... let’s say I only operated the pattern layout computer and never touched any other tool or machinery, does that count as having done “actual manufacturing” in your book?

                          What about, say, the corporate lawyer who takes care of legal matters for the garment factory but never touched any tool or machinery except the computers/typewriters? Does that lawyer count as having done “actual manufacturing” in your book?

                          What about a merger and acquisition specialist who has never worked a day in any factory, but has worked two dozen deals buying and selling garment factories? If such a person were to opine on what he think the future for garment factory workers is, are you going to brush him off because he has never done any “actual manufacturing”?

                          As a matter of fact, I have. If you bought a Sony TV between 1992 and 1994, there's a 7% chance that your circuit board came through my station. I also did some general labor in a machine shop for a while, and grew up in a family where every member of my family worked for Corning Glassworks in Charleroi. One of my uncles was one of the plant managers and another uncle was president of the union There were some interesting holiday discussions...

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                          • L LuFins Dad
                            28 Jul 2020, 19:50

                            @Axtremus said in DC Policy Analyst: "We're All Yang Gang.":

                            @LuFins-Dad said in DC Policy Analyst: "We're All Yang Gang.":

                            Tell me what startups he created and what actual manufacturing he did.

                            Just curious, @LuFins-Dad , have you done any “actual manufacturing” yourself?

                            Suppose I say, a long time ago, I operated a computer in a garment factory that lays out patterns on fabric such that another team would later cut (in bulk) the fabric by tracing the pattern laid out by the computer, and the cut pieces then got stitched together to make garments ... let’s say I only operated the pattern layout computer and never touched any other tool or machinery, does that count as having done “actual manufacturing” in your book?

                            What about, say, the corporate lawyer who takes care of legal matters for the garment factory but never touched any tool or machinery except the computers/typewriters? Does that lawyer count as having done “actual manufacturing” in your book?

                            What about a merger and acquisition specialist who has never worked a day in any factory, but has worked two dozen deals buying and selling garment factories? If such a person were to opine on what he think the future for garment factory workers is, are you going to brush him off because he has never done any “actual manufacturing”?

                            As a matter of fact, I have. If you bought a Sony TV between 1992 and 1994, there's a 7% chance that your circuit board came through my station. I also did some general labor in a machine shop for a while, and grew up in a family where every member of my family worked for Corning Glassworks in Charleroi. One of my uncles was one of the plant managers and another uncle was president of the union There were some interesting holiday discussions...

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                            Axtremus
                            wrote on 28 Jul 2020, 20:20 last edited by
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                            @LuFins-Dad said in DC Policy Analyst: "We're All Yang Gang.":

                            As a matter of fact, I have. If you bought a Sony TV between 1992 and 1994, there's a 7% chance that your circuit board came through my station. I also did some general labor in a machine shop for a while, and grew up in a family where every member of my family worked for Corning Glassworks in Charleroi. One of my uncles was one of the plant managers and another uncle was president of the union There were some interesting holiday discussions...

                            Nice!
                            When you did you realize that "TV manufacturing" would leave the USA?
                            When did your family who worked for Corning Glassworks realize that Corning would divest all consumer product lines?

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