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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #14

    FREE MONEY! 🤑🤑

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      FREE MONEY! 🤑🤑

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      George K
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      #15

      @Jolly said in Kamalanomics:

      FREE MONEY! Again! 🤑🤑

      FIFY.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • AxtremusA Offline
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        So the solution to deal with a commodity that is "too expensive" is to give more money to people to buy that commodity?

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          #17

          All that would do is add to the price...

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
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            #18

            And it gets people that aren’t financially in a position to purchase a home going into mortgages they can’t afford.

            The Brad

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #19

              https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/08/15/kamala-harris-economic-policy-2024/

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
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                #20

                Many people have complained she hasn't put forth any policies in her campaign. Well, she has now and it's a doozy. Swinging for the Left Field fence, first pitch.

                THIS is Kamala-lama-ding-dong...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  jon-nyc
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                  #21

                  Good politics. As far as your average voter goes, she’s talking about bringing down the cost of groceries and making housing more affordable. Then she can blame Republicans in congress when little to none of it gets enacted.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    Has Harris said how she plans to pay for all this stuff?

                    Is she just going to let the Trump tax hike kick in in 2025?

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      Has Harris said how she plans to pay for all this stuff?

                      Is she just going to let the Trump tax hike kick in in 2025?

                      AxtremusA Offline
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                      @George-K said in Kamalanomics:

                      Has Harris said how she plans to pay for all this stuff?

                      Has she proposed anything to "tax the rich" yet?

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        #24

                        Harris gives Trump campaign speech.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          The Washington Post Editorial Board:

                          "Gimmicks"


                          Opinion The times demand serious economic ideas. Harris supplies gimmicks.

                          Vice President Kamala Harris’s speech Friday was an opportunity to get specific with voters about how a Harris presidency would manage an economy that many feel is not working well for them. Unfortunately, instead of delivering a substantial plan, she squandered the moment on populist gimmicks.

                          Americans are clearly still anxious and angry about the high cost of groceries, housing and even $5.29 Big Macs. While the inflation rate has cooled substantially since the 2022 peak, an ostensible Biden-Harris administration accomplishment, prices remain elevated relative to the Trump years. So it’s a real political issue for Ms. Harris. One way to handle it might be to level with voters, telling them that inflation spiked in 2021 mainly because the pandemic snarled supply chains, and that the Federal Reserve’s policies, which the Biden-Harris administration supported, are working to slow it. The vice president instead opted for a less forthright route: Blaming big business. She vowed to go after “price gouging” by grocery stores, landlords, pharmaceutical companies and other supposed corporate perpetrators by having the Federal Trade Commission enforce a vaguely defined “federal ban on price gouging.”

                          Never mind that many stores are currently slashing prices in response to renewed consumer bargain hunting. Ms. Harris says she’ll target companies that make “excessive” profits, whatever that means. (It’s hard to see how groceries, a notoriously low-margin business, would qualify.) Thankfully, this gambit by Ms. Harris has been met with almost instant skepticism, with many critics citing President Richard M. Nixon’s failed price controls from the 1970s. Whether the Harris proposal wins over voters remains to be seen, but if sound economic analysis still matters, it won’t.

                          Ms. Harris’s housing plan is built on a slightly firmer foundation. In urging construction of 3 million new homes over the next four years, she puts her finger on the essence of the housing-affordability problem: insufficient supply. She offers clever tax incentives to help make it happen. But her proposed $25,000 in down payment assistance for first-time home buyers stimulates the demand side, which risks putting upward pressure on prices. Such a measure might make sense if Ms. Harris paid for it by eliminating other demand-side housing subsidies, such as the mortgage interest deduction, a roughly $30 billion annual drain on federal revenue that benefits many wealthy Americans — but she does not.

                          Ms. Harris is on firmest ground when she advocates increasing the child tax credit from the current level of $2,000 per kid up to $3,600 per kid for middle-class and low-income families, and for making it easier for those lower on the income scale to access the benefit. These levels were in place in 2021 and resulted in many families being lifted above the poverty line. Assuming it’s designed with appropriate work incentives, the child tax credit can be highly effective anti-poverty policy. Ms. Harris also suggested expanding the earned income tax credit for childless low-income “front-line workers,” a smart idea that has enjoyed bipartisan support in Congress. She would extend beyond 2025 tax breaks to help Americans of modest means afford to buy health insurance on the Affordable Care Act marketplaces; those tax breaks are part of the reason more than 92 percent of Americans have health insurance now. She also wants to expand the government’s limited power to negotiate Medicare drug prices and permanently cap out-of-pocket drug spending at $2,000 per year for everyone.

                          Her ideas would cost money, yet she insisted in her speech that she would hold to President Joe Biden’s pledge not to raise taxes on any household earning $400,000 or less annually. That excludes 80 percent of taxable income, and does not take into account the recent surge in families earning over $400,000. The Harris campaign says it plans to raise revenue to cover these costs but did not provide specific offsets in its economic plan rollout. Without them, Ms. Harris’s full plan would add $1.7 trillion to federal deficits over a decade, according to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, a nonpartisan budget watchdog.

                          To be sure, every campaign makes expensive promises that will never come to pass, especially with a divided Congress. Remember Mr. Biden’s pledge to make community college free? Even adjusted for the pandering standards of campaign economics, however, Ms. Harris’s speech Friday ranks as a disappointment.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Goofy things for her to say. "easy to campaign. tough to govern"

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                            • LuFins DadL Offline
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                              LuFins Dad
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                              I’m loving the NY Post’s Kamala nicknames. They are doing better than Trump…

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                              The Brad

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                                Did you notice that she explains the economy like she is talking to a 5-year old?

                                That's because that is how it was explained to her a few hours ago.

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  Biden was trailing by 5 in this same poll.

                                  IMG_8902.jpeg

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    Biden was trailing by 5 in this same poll.

                                    IMG_8902.jpeg

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                                    LuFins Dad
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                                    @jon-nyc said in Kamalanomics:

                                    Biden was trailing by 5 in this same poll.

                                    IMG_8902.jpeg

                                    Meh, cracks are starting to appear. The convention should help until September.

                                    The Brad

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                                    • JollyJ Offline
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                                      Jolly
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                                      The media is desperately trying to keep her afloat until after early voting starts.

                                      Gotta fool them while you can.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • CopperC Copper

                                        Did you notice that she explains the economy like she is talking to a 5-year old?

                                        That's because that is how it was explained to her a few hours ago.

                                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                        Doctor Phibes
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                                        @Copper said in Kamalanomics:

                                        Did you notice that she explains the economy like she is talking to a 5-year old?

                                        That's because that is how it was explained to her a few hours ago.

                                        Unlike Herr Professor Doktor Trump, you mean?

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                          @Copper said in Kamalanomics:

                                          Did you notice that she explains the economy like she is talking to a 5-year old?

                                          That's because that is how it was explained to her a few hours ago.

                                          Unlike Herr Professor Doktor Trump, you mean?

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                                          Copper
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                                          #33

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Kamalanomics:

                                          Unlike Herr Professor Doktor Trump, you mean?

                                          Yes, of course, all the pathetic stupidity of Ms. Harris is explained by equity with Mr. Trump.

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