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First they came for my straws...

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    ...but coming after my spork is a bridge too far.

    https://www.doi.gov/reducing-single-use-plastic-pollution#:~:text=Single-use plastic products include,be used once and discarded.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/07/19/fact-sheet-biden-harris-administration-releases-new-strategy-to-tackle-plastic-pollution-takes-action-to-reduce-single-use-plastics-in-federal-operations/

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    Of course, by 2032, I'll probably be eating through a tube in my nose, so for me it's not that big a deal.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      Look, I'm all for reducing plastic waste. It cuts down on oil consumption and it cuts down on waste heading to landfills.

      But this WhiteHouse is filled with eco-nuts.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        Case-in-point (maybe not government, but Joint)...For years, hospitals used metal cutlery and real plates in hospital cafeterias. Cutlery was washed and put in holders and placed on the cafeteria line. You grabbed a fork, knife and spoon before you got your plate.

        Well, that's not sanitary enough. We must use plastic. So they put plastic cutlery in the bins. No, that's not good, either. So, they went to individual wraps, with fork,spoon,knife and napkin in one package. Ah, but that's too expensive. So, now they've gone to individually wrapped plastic cutlery, wrapped in plastic, where you choose what you need from a dispenser.

        I'm just a dumb old country boy, but I don't remember any lowering of staff illness rates through the years, no matter which system of cutlery was used. But we were addressing the non-existent problem.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          Case-in-point (maybe not government, but Joint)...For years, hospitals used metal cutlery and real plates in hospital cafeterias. Cutlery was washed and put in holders and placed on the cafeteria line. You grabbed a fork, knife and spoon before you got your plate.

          Well, that's not sanitary enough. We must use plastic. So they put plastic cutlery in the bins. No, that's not good, either. So, they went to individual wraps, with fork,spoon,knife and napkin in one package. Ah, but that's too expensive. So, now they've gone to individually wrapped plastic cutlery, wrapped in plastic, where you choose what you need from a dispenser.

          I'm just a dumb old country boy, but I don't remember any lowering of staff illness rates through the years, no matter which system of cutlery was used. But we were addressing the non-existent problem.

          George KG Offline
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          George K
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          @Jolly see this Amtrak steak?

          1016877_10152824871225351_2147066077540722538_n.jpg

          The plate is disposable. They wash the silverware, but all the other stuff gets pitched.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            Case-in-point (maybe not government, but Joint)...For years, hospitals used metal cutlery and real plates in hospital cafeterias. Cutlery was washed and put in holders and placed on the cafeteria line. You grabbed a fork, knife and spoon before you got your plate.

            Well, that's not sanitary enough. We must use plastic. So they put plastic cutlery in the bins. No, that's not good, either. So, they went to individual wraps, with fork,spoon,knife and napkin in one package. Ah, but that's too expensive. So, now they've gone to individually wrapped plastic cutlery, wrapped in plastic, where you choose what you need from a dispenser.

            I'm just a dumb old country boy, but I don't remember any lowering of staff illness rates through the years, no matter which system of cutlery was used. But we were addressing the non-existent problem.

            AxtremusA Away
            AxtremusA Away
            Axtremus
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            @Jolly said in First they came for my straws...:

            I'm just a dumb old country boy, ...

            As if you being a dumb old country boy has any relevance to the issue at hand.

            ... but I don't remember any lowering of staff illness rates through the years, no matter which system of cutlery was used.

            Don't go by memory. Cite actual statistics. Let the data do the talking.

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            • taiwan_girlT Offline
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              I think it comes down to money (like most things LOL). I was talking to someone in a US hotel that served the basic breakfast on throwaway silverware, plates, cups etc.

              If they wanted to wash it and reuse it, they would require a special dishwasher machine that would be acceptable for commercial usage, different/additional certification for the workers, extra space required for all of this, etc. So, in the end, they figured it was just cheaper and easier to use disposable.

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                @Jolly said in First they came for my straws...:

                I'm just a dumb old country boy, ...

                As if you being a dumb old country boy has any relevance to the issue at hand.

                ... but I don't remember any lowering of staff illness rates through the years, no matter which system of cutlery was used.

                Don't go by memory. Cite actual statistics. Let the data do the talking.

                JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
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                @Axtremus said in First they came for my straws...:

                @Jolly said in First they came for my straws...:

                I'm just a dumb old country boy, ...

                As if you being a dumb old country boy has any relevance to the issue at hand.

                ... but I don't remember any lowering of staff illness rates through the years, no matter which system of cutlery was used.

                Don't go by memory. Cite actual statistics. Let the data do the talking.

                1. Self-deprecation is an art form, not subject to quantification. Fraught with meaning to those with more than passing knowledge of social interaction, it would of course be like muddy water to your non-existent social palate.
                2. I do many things by memory. Life is too short - and you are too insignificant - to waste time quantifying speech for normal social discourse.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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