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The Lawfare Continues

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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    @Jolly You make sense. But........ who can change the rules for the Supreme Court? Only themself?

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    @taiwan_girl said in The Lawfare Continues:

    who can change the rules for the Supreme Court? Only themself?

    Good question. I think you're right.

    Who sets rules for Congress?

    They, like SCOTUS are a COEQUAL branch of the government. Congressional oversight over the excutive brans, How was that established? Did the presidency say, "OK, we'll let you look into our shit?"

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

      @Jolly You make sense. But........ who can change the rules for the Supreme Court? Only themself?

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      @taiwan_girl said in The Lawfare Continues:

      @Jolly You make sense. But........ who can change the rules for the Supreme Court? Only themself?

      A SCOTUS judge can be impeached. Only the Congress has the authority to do so.

      Somebody recently tried to do so...

      https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/ocasio-cortez-moves-to-impeach-scotus-justices-alito-thomas/

      A Supreme Court Justice has never been impeached.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        The discussion really shouldn't be about Clarence Thomas at all. It should be about removing the opportunity for corruption at the highest levels of government.

        Based on the wealth of significant numbers of senior political figures, I'd say that was potentially bigger concern than voter fraud.

        I was only joking

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          The discussion really shouldn't be about Clarence Thomas at all. It should be about removing the opportunity for corruption at the highest levels of government.

          Based on the wealth of significant numbers of senior political figures, I'd say that was potentially bigger concern than voter fraud.

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          @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lawfare Continues:

          The discussion really shouldn't be about Clarence Thomas at all. It should be about removing the opportunity for corruption at the highest levels of government.

          Based on the wealth of significant numbers of senior political figures, I'd say that was potentially bigger concern than voter fraud.

          No, but I'd say it ranks right up there...

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/justice-elena-kagan-calls-for-enforceable-supreme-court-ethics-rules-e750ae7d?mod=Searchresults_pos1&page=1

            Justice Elena Kagan called Thursday for an enforceable code of conduct for Supreme Court justices, saying that ethical rules the court adopted under pressure last year are flawed because they rely on the justices to police their own behavior.

            “Rules usually have enforcement mechanisms attached to them and this one, this set of rules, does not,” Kagan told a judicial conference. She suggested that compliance could be overseen by a committee of respected lower-court judges appointed by the chief justice, which could decide when sanctions for violations should be imposed.

            and

            Kagan said having an enforceable ethics code would benefit the court’s reputation. “Sometimes people accuse us of misconduct where we haven’t engaged in misconduct,” she said. Having a credible compliance system wouldn’t only serve to enforce “the rules against people who have violated them but also [would protect] people who haven’t violated them,” she said.

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              It’s not only the method of valuation, but the determination of what constitutes a gift. Cynical me believes these methods employed by an organization with an axe to grind might not meet with common approval.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Keagan is on to something. It provides an independent enforcement mechanism without separation of powers concerns.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  Keagan is on to something. It provides an independent enforcement mechanism without separation of powers concerns.

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                  @jon-nyc said in The Lawfare Continues:

                  Keagan is on to something. It provides an independent enforcement mechanism without separation of powers concerns.

                  +1

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                    Put the politics of this aside. I'd personally feel weird going on a trip with someone without paying my way, now add into the mix a highly public national office and I don't see how this would feel right.

                    Then again, I'm just a plebe. But I think this does smell icky to the regular person - even if it is all completely on the up and up.

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                      It’s not right and we all know it. Those who say otherwise are just engaging in tribal wagon-circling.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                      • X xenon

                        Put the politics of this aside. I'd personally feel weird going on a trip with someone without paying my way, now add into the mix a highly public national office and I don't see how this would feel right.

                        Then again, I'm just a plebe. But I think this does smell icky to the regular person - even if it is all completely on the up and up.

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                        @xenon said in The Lawfare Continues:

                        Put the politics of this aside. I'd personally feel weird going on a trip with someone without paying my way, now add into the mix a highly public national office and I don't see how this would feel right.

                        Then again, I'm just a plebe. But I think this does smell icky to the regular person - even if it is all completely on the up and up.

                        Agree 100%. Just kind of weird, and I a guessing that pretty much everyone on this forum board feel the same way.

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                          It's not right, but it's a longstanding culture. It's not SCOTUs, it's everybody.

                          Shucks, Scalia used to duck hunt a few miles from my house. You think he paid for those hunting trips? 😅😅

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            It's not right, but it's a longstanding culture. It's not SCOTUs, it's everybody.

                            Shucks, Scalia used to duck hunt a few miles from my house. You think he paid for those hunting trips? 😅😅

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                            @Jolly Have to change the culture. I don't know why if you are high in government, there becomes an "entitlement". And this is not a party issue. As you say, its everybody.

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