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  • George KG George K

    @Mik said in Vance?:

    For the life of me I cannot see why anyone would think Pete, an unpopular mayor of a small city, would be a good president

    Or even a mayor of a small city, for that matter.

    Oh, wait...he checks an important box.

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    Axtremus
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    @George-K said in Vance?:

    Oh, wait...he checks an important box.

    Like Trump, a “privileged white male”?

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    • AxtremusA Axtremus

      @George-K said in Vance?:

      Oh, wait...he checks an important box.

      Like Trump, a “privileged white male”?

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      Jolly
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      #59

      @Axtremus said in Vance?:

      @George-K said in Vance?:

      Oh, wait...he checks an important box.

      Like Trump, a “privileged white male”?

      Nope, wife.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • George KG George K

        @Mik said in Vance?:

        For the life of me I cannot see why anyone would think Pete, an unpopular mayor of a small city, would be a good president

        Or even a mayor of a small city, for that matter.

        Oh, wait...he checks an important box.

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        Copper
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        #60

        @George-K said in Vance?:

        checks an important box

        Member of a circus freak show?

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          Mik
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          #61

          Interesting. Out on the deck having a discussion with my bride about the crime structure in Middletown when I was growing up and how it differed from today. I wonder how much Vance knows about it since it was before his time.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            George K
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            #62

            https://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Middletown-Ohio.html

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Mik
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              #63

              That’s now. When I was over there it was all mobbed due to the union up so nobody really got too out of line. Now it’s largely street gang related.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  jon-nyc
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                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    George K
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                    Jesus...

                    https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2024/07/19/jd-vance-usha-chilukuri-indian-interracial-marriage-racism-trump-white-supremacy-rummana-hussain

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                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Horace
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                      #67

                      Yes we're already long past the point of being educated that one does not have to be white to be a white supremacist. Mostly, in order not to be a white supremacist, you have to vote Democrat. It's a color-blind concept, except for that first word in "white supremacist". That's definitely a color. Other than that, color has nothing to do with it.

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                        Jolly
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                        And they wonder why people could care less about their BS...

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          jon-nyc
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                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            IMG_8184.jpeg

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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            @jon-nyc said in Vance?:

                            IMG_8184.jpeg

                            The Legend of Tea Bagger Vance?

                            I was only joking

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                              taiwan_girl
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                              @jon-nyc

                              It was all about the working men and women and how they aren’t treated fairly. I understood that better than anyone else.

                              LOL It is amazing how someone who was born into a millionaire family, grew up in a millionaire family, boasts about how much money he has is able to identify with the working men and women better than anyone else. 555

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                                #72

                                Also his book rather (in)famously made the opposite point - that they do it too themselves. Though in Trump’s defense, Vance now in his speeches makes the very opposite point that his book did so that he can blame Biden Harris. No doubt this is where Trump’s impression comes from.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  Also his book rather (in)famously made the opposite point - that they do it too themselves. Though in Trump’s defense, Vance now in his speeches makes the very opposite point that his book did so that he can blame Biden Harris. No doubt this is where Trump’s impression comes from.

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                                  George K
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                                  @jon-nyc said in Vance?:

                                  his book rather (in)famously made the opposite point - that they do it too themselves

                                  That was my takeaway as well.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Horace
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                                    #74

                                    The idea that dysfunctional cultures disadvantage people can obviously be found in the book. And I would be surprised if bootstrap narratives to help fix that problem, have been entirely abandoned by Vance or Trump.

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                                      Horace
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                                      The reason for the Vance pick, from a mainstream leftist:

                                      Link to video

                                      tl;dw - tech bros such as Elon and Peter Theil are fascist, they like Vance, and Trump wants their money.

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                                        https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2024/07/25/jd-vance-struggling-in-polls-after-trump-vp-nod/

                                        KEY FACTS

                                        A Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted Monday and Tuesday found a slight shift in Vance’s favorability numbers, with 32% of respondents thinking of him favorably compared to 24% the prior week, though his unfavorability also increased, jumping from 30% to 39%.

                                        An NPR/PBS News/Marist poll conducted Monday asking whether registered voters found Vance favorable or unfavorable found more (36%) were unsure or had not heard of him—though numbers were different along party lines, with 51% of Democrats finding him unfavorable compared to 11% of Republicans, and 57% of Republicans finding him favorable compared to 18% of Democrats.

                                        A Monday-Tuesday CNN poll compared Vance’s favorability to what it was among registered voters in late June—before the convention—and found his favorability jumped from 13% to 28% while his unfavorability jumped from 20% to 34% and the amount of respondents who had never heard of him fell from 51% to 16%.

                                        A YouGov poll conducted Sunday through Tuesday was the most thorough in its questions about Vance, asking whether people found him favorable, thought he was a good choice, helped Trump’s chances of winning, was qualified to be president and what people interpreted his ideology as (70% thought he was conservative or moderate).

                                        BIG NUMBER

                                        58%. That’s how many Republican respondents in the YouGov poll felt Vance helped Trump's chances of winning the election

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                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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