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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    @horace posted this story in the D4 update thread

    Link to video

    Another neurosurgeon comments:

    Link to video

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Horace
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      I posted it because I thought the opinion about the lifestyle changes might be of some value. I don't think the "debunking" video was exactly a fair representation of much of what the "MIT trained neurosurgeon" said. Most importantly, the MIT guy never said surgery never helped. He said it didn't help enough in his experience to be worth devoting his life to. The debunker's contention that if a patient doesn't get better, then it's the surgeon's fault, would certainly not be avowed to in most other contexts. It comes in handy rhetorically in the context of this debunking video. There was no claim in the MIT guy's video that the body always naturally heals, and the debunker's didactic tangent of evolution and degradation with age was intentionally condescending. Then the comparison to the Unabomber, this guy obviously felt personally attacked and yay he's lashing out. He could have done a better job of pretending to be a dispassionate purveyor of reason and sanity.

      Education is extremely important.

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        George K
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        Yes, there's little doubt that lifestyle changes can be of value.

        But no amount of "clean living" is gonna make that 1 ½ inch long disc fragment go away.

        There is no such thing as a "MIT-eductated neurosurgeon." He may have gone to undergrad at MIT, but he didn't go to medical school or do his training there.

        THat's the first red flag.

        And yeah, perhaps when your patients don't get better after you operate on them, some introspection might be in order. In this guy's case, perhaps he took that advice, and the mountains are where he belongs, rather than in an operating room.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Horace
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          The MIT thing was an unfortunate clickbaity, name droppy thing, and if the debunker wants to make that his primary red flag, that is fair play, as rhetorical debunks go.

          Education is extremely important.

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            Decades ago, I was on a flight, and the older woman next to me looked like a homeless person. She was pretty shabbily dressed. She initiated a conversation and started talking about a mine she owned. Of course, I'm thinking BS. I ask where she's headed. She says she's headed to a neurosurgeon's meeting. I look at her hands. She has stubby little fingers. Uh huh...sure... I mention that I know the executive director of the AANS - their professional group - she knew him. Upon subsequent investigation - she was a neurosurgeon.

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              I get perturbed at people who take up med school spots and won't practice medicine.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                This sucker did his residency in New Orleans (Oschners)...

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                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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