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  • HoraceH Horace

    How about including apologetics for the Secret Service amongst the foul reactions? Here’s a retired agent on Fox News making two points and not granting, yet, that any important mistakes were made:

    Link to video

    1. The range the sniper teams were surveillng might have been very large. The rooftop the shooter occupied, even though it was the closest rooftop to Trump, was still only a very small piece of the area the snipers were responsible for.

    2. The secure perimeter may not have extended to that closest rooftop. Maybe the Secret Service subcontracted that area out to local law enforcement.

    So basically there are no justifications for the security lapse that would pass the sniff test of a child.

    I don’t think there was any intentional lapse here, I just think we have to recalibrate our esteem for the secret service over this. This was a fucking joke of a catastrophic face plant.

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    @Horace said in Foul reactions - Assassination Attempt:

    How about including apologetics for the Secret Service amongst the foul reactions? Here’s a retired agent on Fox News making two points and not granting, yet, that any important mistakes were made:

    Link to video

    1. The range the sniper teams were surveillng might have been very large. The rooftop the shooter occupied, even though it was the closest rooftop to Trump, was still only a very small piece of the area the snipers were responsible for.

    2. The secure perimeter may not have extended to that closest rooftop. Maybe the Secret Service subcontracted that area out to local law enforcement.

    So basically there are no justifications for the security lapse that would pass the sniff test of a child.

    I don’t think there was any intentional lapse here, I just think we have to recalibrate our esteem for the secret service over this. This was a fucking joke of a catastrophic face plant.

    Interesting factoid ..FOX reported this afternoon, there was no ladder.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Now, if that's true, his did the guy get on the roof?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        The same way the cop got up there and then went down… The ladder.

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          The same way the cop got up there and then went down… The ladder.

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          @LuFins-Dad said in Foul reactions - Assassination Attempt:

          The same way the cop got up there and then went down… The ladder.

          Like I said, they said no ladder.

          The cop had to get one

          Now, that could be wrong reporting...But hearings start next week, I believe.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @LuFins-Dad said in Foul reactions - Assassination Attempt:

            The same way the cop got up there and then went down… The ladder.

            Like I said, they said no ladder.

            The cop had to get one

            Now, that could be wrong reporting...But hearings start next week, I believe.

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            @Jolly Maybe free climb? DOnt know what the outside of the building looked like, but maybe window frames, etc. Or, would there have been access from the inside?

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              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Wish we could tell if it was an earnest expression on Black’s part or not…

                The Brad

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                  That’s a little sad. Jack and Kyle go back a long way and that reads like the end of the friendship. I have to assume cracks had been appearing well before then.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    Well, the girl who butchered the national anthem was drunk. This guy may well have been too.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      From what I heard, Jack gave an "Okay!" to that...

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Foul reactions - Assassination Attempt:

                        The same way the cop got up there and then went down… The ladder.

                        Like I said, they said no ladder.

                        The cop had to get one

                        Now, that could be wrong reporting...But hearings start next week, I believe.

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                        @Jolly said in Foul reactions - Assassination Attempt:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Foul reactions - Assassination Attempt:

                        The same way the cop got up there and then went down… The ladder.

                        Like I said, they said no ladder.

                        The cop had to get one

                        Now, that could be wrong reporting...But hearings start next week, I believe.

                        They can say what they want. The guy had a 5ft ladder.

                        The Brad

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