Vance?

[Jolly]

@jon-nyc said in Vance?:

Now? Did they start the convention already?

Yep.

He's been nominated. Nomination passed by acclaim. Don't know if he will speak.

[Copper]

@Mik said in Vance?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Vance?:

The debate with Kamala will be ugly.

He will crush her like a bug.

Will she giggle?

I say she will. It is her best move.

[Copper]

@Jolly said in Vance?:

Don't know if he will speak.

The convention is in recess at the moment. But Mr. Vance is walking through the crowd shaking hands.
We don't have a time for his speech yet.

[Axtremus]

@LuFins-Dad said in Vance?:

The big question, would Vance have certified the electors in 2020?

Likely an interview question Trump asked all the VP wannabes.

[jon-nyc]

If Trump wins and dies in office Vance could have a shot at being the youngest ever president.

[jon-nyc]

If they win he’ll be the third youngest Veep after Breckinridge (36) and Nixon (40), pushing Dan Quayle (41) out of the #3 spot.

[jon-nyc]

No wonder vance is so angry. He was basically assigned female at puberty.

[LuFins Dad]

[George K]

From the RWEC: "A disappointing choice"

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As expected, Donald Trump announced today that J.D. Vance will he his running mate. I think that is a bad decision for a number of reasons.

At 39, Vance is too young for the role. And with less than two years in the Senate as his only political office, he has nowhere near the experience that a vice president should bring to a ticket.

Vance, who is unknown to the general public, won’t bring Trump a single new vote. In fact, there is no reason to think that he is any kind of political powerhouse: in his only race, he ran far behind the other statewide Republican candidates in Ohio.

Further, Vance’s political views are, in almost a literal sense, half-baked. He is still evolving. Thus, he denounced Trump viciously in 2016, while now he is an acolyte. In 2016, it was dumb of Vance to describe Trump as an “idiot,” as “noxious,” as one who is either “a cynical asshole” or “America’s Hitler,” just as it is dumb for Democrats to say the same things today. Vance’s never-Trumpism showed poor judgment, and 2016 is not exactly ancient history. Vance also converted to Catholicism in 2019. Nothing wrong with that; on the contrary, I applaud it. But we don’t need a president or vice president who is still on a voyage of self-discovery.

I am also suspicious of Vance on foreign policy. In tone, he strikes me as something close to an isolationist. He attacks the Iraq war in a manner barely distinguishable from leftists, and his statement that “I got to be honest with you, I don’t really care what happens to Ukraine one way or another,” is flippant at best. The world needs a strong America; I am not sure Vance agrees.

In short, while Vance is a bright guy and a pretty solid conservative, I don’t think he is anywhere near ready for prime time, and I don’t think he makes a perceptible contribution to the ticket. Trump had a number of much better choices available, and I think his selecting Vance reflects the poor judgment to which Trump is occasionally prone.

[Jolly]

I think Trump picked Vance for several reasons:

1. He's good friends with Don, Jr. They have hunted and fished together in the past. His private nature is known.
2. Politically, he's MAGA.
3. His backstory is a classic American success story.
4. The campaign has already said they are going to use him traditional blue-collar areas, along with some suburban campaigning. Think Pennsylvania, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan.
5. Vance is bright, but can be pugnacious when dealing with the press. I think Trump likes that.

[George K]

@Jolly said in Vance?:

pugnacious when dealing with the press. I think Trump likes that.

Did you see Don Junior talking to the press at the convention yesterday? He called them out on many of the lies that they propagated.

[Doctor Phibes]

I'm 5 foot 7 and I'm more of a man than you'll ever be. Just ask my hair stylist.

[Horace]

The 5’7 thing was a very successful troll by someone familiar with SEO.

[Axtremus]

[Mik]

For the life of me I cannot see why anyone would think Pete, an unpopular mayor of a small city, would be a good president

[George K]

@Mik said in Vance?:

For the life of me I cannot see why anyone would think Pete, an unpopular mayor of a small city, would be a good president

Or even a mayor of a small city, for that matter.

Oh, wait...he checks an important box.

[Axtremus]

@George-K said in Vance?:

Oh, wait...he checks an important box.

Like Trump, a “privileged white male”?

[Jolly]

@Axtremus said in Vance?:

@George-K said in Vance?:

Oh, wait...he checks an important box.

Like Trump, a “privileged white male”?

Nope, wife.

[Copper]

@George-K said in Vance?:

checks an important box

Member of a circus freak show?

[Mik]

Interesting. Out on the deck having a discussion with my bride about the crime structure in Middletown when I was growing up and how it differed from today. I wonder how much Vance knows about it since it was before his time.