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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    #31

    The debate with Kamala will be ugly.

    The Brad

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
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      #32

      The big question, would Vance have certified the electors in 2020?

      The Brad

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        The big question, would Vance have certified the electors in 2020?

        JollyJ Offline
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        #33

        @LuFins-Dad said in Vance?:

        The big question, would Vance have certified the electors in 2020?

        Maybe not.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
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          #34

          But it ain't 2020.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            The debate with Kamala will be ugly.

            MikM Away
            MikM Away
            Mik
            wrote on last edited by
            #35

            @LuFins-Dad said in Vance?:

            The debate with Kamala will be ugly.

            He will crush her like a bug.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              But it ain't 2020.

              MikM Away
              MikM Away
              Mik
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              #36

              @Jolly said in Vance?:

              But it ain't 2020.

              And it won’t be. He can’t run again.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
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                #37

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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • MikM Mik

                  @Jolly said in Vance?:

                  But it ain't 2020.

                  And it won’t be. He can’t run again.

                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
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                  #38

                  @Mik said in Vance?:

                  @Jolly said in Vance?:

                  But it ain't 2020.

                  And it won’t be. He can’t run again.

                  But leaving office will interfere with his core powers granted by the constitution…

                  The Brad

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    The big question, would Vance have certified the electors in 2020?

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #39

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Vance?:

                    The big question, would Vance have certified the electors in 2020?

                    He would have taken the Pence route in 2020. The bigger question is what he might do in 2029

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
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                      #40

                      Well, he's coming onstage right now...Gotta listen...Edit: He's with the Ohio Delegation.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
                        jon-nycJ Online
                        jon-nyc
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                        #41

                        Now? Did they start the convention already?

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Now? Did they start the convention already?

                          JollyJ Offline
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                          #42

                          @jon-nyc said in Vance?:

                          Now? Did they start the convention already?

                          Yep.

                          He's been nominated. Nomination passed by acclaim. Don't know if he will speak.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • MikM Mik

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Vance?:

                            The debate with Kamala will be ugly.

                            He will crush her like a bug.

                            CopperC Offline
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                            Copper
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #43

                            @Mik said in Vance?:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Vance?:

                            The debate with Kamala will be ugly.

                            He will crush her like a bug.

                            Will she giggle?

                            I say she will. It is her best move.

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @jon-nyc said in Vance?:

                              Now? Did they start the convention already?

                              Yep.

                              He's been nominated. Nomination passed by acclaim. Don't know if he will speak.

                              CopperC Offline
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                              Copper
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                              #44

                              @Jolly said in Vance?:

                              Don't know if he will speak.

                              The convention is in recess at the moment. But Mr. Vance is walking through the crowd shaking hands.
                              We don't have a time for his speech yet.

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                The big question, would Vance have certified the electors in 2020?

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                                @LuFins-Dad said in Vance?:

                                The big question, would Vance have certified the electors in 2020?

                                Likely an interview question Trump asked all the VP wannabes.

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  If Trump wins and dies in office Vance could have a shot at being the youngest ever president.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    If they win he’ll be the third youngest Veep after Breckinridge (36) and Nixon (40), pushing Dan Quayle (41) out of the #3 spot.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      #48

                                      No wonder vance is so angry. He was basically assigned female at puberty.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        No wonder vance is so angry. He was basically assigned female at puberty.

                                        LuFins DadL Offline
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                                        LuFins Dad
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                                        #49

                                        @jon-nyc said in Vance?:

                                        No wonder vance is so angry. He was basically assigned female at puberty.

                                        Not true…

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                                        The Brad

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                                          From the RWEC: "A disappointing choice"


                                          As expected, Donald Trump announced today that J.D. Vance will he his running mate. I think that is a bad decision for a number of reasons.

                                          At 39, Vance is too young for the role. And with less than two years in the Senate as his only political office, he has nowhere near the experience that a vice president should bring to a ticket.

                                          Vance, who is unknown to the general public, won’t bring Trump a single new vote. In fact, there is no reason to think that he is any kind of political powerhouse: in his only race, he ran far behind the other statewide Republican candidates in Ohio.

                                          Further, Vance’s political views are, in almost a literal sense, half-baked. He is still evolving. Thus, he denounced Trump viciously in 2016, while now he is an acolyte. In 2016, it was dumb of Vance to describe Trump as an “idiot,” as “noxious,” as one who is either “a cynical asshole” or “America’s Hitler,” just as it is dumb for Democrats to say the same things today. Vance’s never-Trumpism showed poor judgment, and 2016 is not exactly ancient history. Vance also converted to Catholicism in 2019. Nothing wrong with that; on the contrary, I applaud it. But we don’t need a president or vice president who is still on a voyage of self-discovery.

                                          I am also suspicious of Vance on foreign policy. In tone, he strikes me as something close to an isolationist. He attacks the Iraq war in a manner barely distinguishable from leftists, and his statement that “I got to be honest with you, I don’t really care what happens to Ukraine one way or another,” is flippant at best. The world needs a strong America; I am not sure Vance agrees.

                                          In short, while Vance is a bright guy and a pretty solid conservative, I don’t think he is anywhere near ready for prime time, and I don’t think he makes a perceptible contribution to the ticket. Trump had a number of much better choices available, and I think his selecting Vance reflects the poor judgment to which Trump is occasionally prone.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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