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  • MikM Mik

    If you are giving 95% of students free tuition, what's the virtue of charging the other 5?

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    @Mik said in Free Tuition:

    If you are giving 95% of students free tuition, what's the virtue of charging the other 5?

    That's not quite that they're saying - they're saying they will give 66% of their students free tuition. It's skewed from the general population since there is presumably a tendency for the successful applicants to come from richer families anyway.

    I don't know how the detailed numbers work, but I don't have a problem with them making attendance affordable for people who aren't wealthy. They're not actually punishing anybody, they're taking away a cost for 2/3 of their students based on an endowment.

    I was only joking

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      It should have been staggered.

      Think about it, JHU Med tuition is $65K per year. That’s $260K total. A kid from a family making $298K per year gets it for free, but a student who’s parents combine for just $2K more per year gets nothing…

      The Brad

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        And a family making $298K per year are doing pretty damn well..

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          It should have been staggered.

          Think about it, JHU Med tuition is $65K per year. That’s $260K total. A kid from a family making $298K per year gets it for free, but a student who’s parents combine for just $2K more per year gets nothing…

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          @LuFins-Dad said in Free Tuition:

          It should have been staggered.

          Think about it, JHU Med tuition is $65K per year. That’s $260K total. A kid from a family making $298K per year gets it for free, but a student who’s parents combine for just $2K more per year gets nothing…

          Yes, that's fair. A complete cut-off isn't the smartest way to do it. It might also be worth taking into account whether the family has more than one kid in college at the same time.

          I was only joking

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            It should have been staggered.

            Think about it, JHU Med tuition is $65K per year. That’s $260K total. A kid from a family making $298K per year gets it for free, but a student who’s parents combine for just $2K more per year gets nothing…

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            @LuFins-Dad said in Free Tuition:

            a student who’s parents combine for just $2K more per year

            Maybe the employer of the parents who combine for just $2K more per year would be kind enough to give them a $2K pay cut.

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              Same as with the US Affordable Care Act insurance. There is an income "cliff", not a gradual slope. Make X$/year = eligible for subsidy. Make X+1$/year = 0 subsidy. Always seemed silly to me to have that like that.

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                Instead of free tuition, how about bigger classes?

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                @Jolly said in Free Tuition:

                Instead of free tuition, how about bigger classes?

                Said a wise man.😄

                It is horrendously expensive to educate a physician ( a DOCTOR Jill, not so much 🤔). Let's not cut tuition, let's use the money to train more doctors!

                I'll bet you my next paycheck there are kids applying to med schools that never get in, that would make decent primary care physicians.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  If they use the AI and type in the symptoms correctly then I believe a primary care physician is within cognitive reach of many.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    If they use the AI and type in the symptoms correctly then I believe a primary care physician is within cognitive reach of many.

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                    @Horace said in Free Tuition:

                    If they use the AI and type in the symptoms correctly then I believe a primary care physician is within cognitive reach of many.

                    I've seen what happens when people use Doctor Google. It's not always pretty.

                    I was only joking

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                      Maybe you should withhold judgment until you see Dr. GPT?

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        Maybe you should withhold judgment until you see Dr. GPT?

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                        @Axtremus said in Free Tuition:

                        Maybe you should withhold judgment until you see Dr. GPT?

                        When it comes to Dr. Google it's not typically the computer that's at fault, but the person doing the searching. That won't change with Dr. GPT.

                        I was only joking

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                          An untrained hypochondriac filtering through a bunch of google search results will not be exactly the same thing as a doctor consulting a trained diagnostic AI, but hey you are welcome to your opinion about the equivalence in results.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            An untrained hypochondriac filtering through a bunch of google search results will not be exactly the same thing as a doctor consulting a trained diagnostic AI, but hey you are welcome to your opinion about the equivalence in results.

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                            @Horace said in Free Tuition:

                            An untrained hypochondriac filtering through a bunch of google search results will not be exactly the same thing as a doctor consulting a trained diagnostic AI

                            Well, sure. I kind of thought you were implying we didn't really need doctors because we've got AI but re-reading it I probably misunderstood where you were going.

                            I was only joking

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